Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-07 Thread j maccraw
] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [H] New AGP video card A lowly old Nforce2 XP2800 system I built back in 2004. Don't get soaked. Take

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-06 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
j maccraw wrote: :: Well all I can say after switching from a fried 9800 :: (that ATI wouldn't :: warranty) to a X850XT is WOW!. Older R481 but still :: 256-bit memory :: unlike the 128-bit 1650 garbage. :: What kind of system did you put that into? I'm still debating if I want to spend money

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-06 Thread j maccraw
A lowly old Nforce2 XP2800 system I built back in 2004. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: j maccraw wrote: :: Well all I can say after switching from a fried 9800 :: (that ATI wouldn't :: warranty) to a X850XT is WOW!. Older R481 but still :: 256-bit memory :: unlike the 128-bit 1650 garbage. ::

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-06 Thread Steve
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6336 - Original Message - From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [H] New AGP video card A lowly old Nforce2 XP2800 system I built back in 2004

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-06 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
, 2007 6:19 PM :: Subject: Re: [H] New AGP video card :: :: ::: A lowly old Nforce2 XP2800 system I built back in ::: 2004. ::: ::: Anthony Q. Martin wrote: j maccraw wrote: :: Well all I can say after switching from a fried ::: 9800 :: (that ATI wouldn't :: warranty) to a X850XT

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Winterlight wrote: If you aren't interested in major gaming, no point in spending any more cash. I went for the x1650Pro in my HTPC. true, but if I keep this PC for a few years I will probably wish I had the fastest available video card. I notice the X1950 aren't made by ATI does

RE: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Greg Sevart
At 06:21 PM 3/4/2007, you wrote: The X1650Pro would be sufficient. All you need is one dual-link TMDS transmitter and one single-link TMDS transmitter (for a 30 WQXGA and a simultaneous lesser monitor). I'm pretty sure that all 1650's are at least one dual and one single, but I know

RE: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Winterlight
Yes. GPU speed is completely independent of output capability. As time has gone by, more cards (even slow ones) have become dual-link and even dual dual-link capable. The 30 WQXGA doesn't just require DVI, it requires dual-link DVI. That is not to be confused with dual DVI outputs. Dual-link

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Winterlight
But that speed only matters when gaming and if you aren't gaming then it's unrealized speed. Then it's not really the fastest available This is true, but in the last 4 years I started buying at the top end, and I don't upgrade very often. When I built the Xeon box I debated whether to

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread j maccraw
Performance wise it's x850XT, X1800, X1900, then X1950 Pro which AFAIK is the highest model for AGP. The x1650 is a waste lagging behind even the X800. http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html Greg Sevart wrote: The X1650Pro would be sufficient. All you need is one dual-link TMDS

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Winterlight
At 01:31 PM 3/5/2007, you wrote: Performance wise it's x850XT, X1800, X1900, then X1950 Pro which AFAIK is the highest model for AGP. The x1650 is a waste lagging behind even the X800. http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html Cool chart! Anybody know of something like this for modern CPUs?

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
What's really sad is that my ATI 9800 Pro doesn't even show up on that long, long list! j maccraw wrote: Performance wise it's x850XT, X1800, X1900, then X1950 Pro which AFAIK is the highest model for AGP. The x1650 is a waste lagging behind even the X800.

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I must admit that I agree with you on the CPU...I can never get enough and I always try to buy as much as I can afford. I'm also like you with games...I want to be able to play one every once in a while, but the fact is I don't. I have a stack of old games sitting in here unopened and

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Winterlight
At 02:12 PM 3/5/2007, you wrote: I must admit that I agree with you on the CPU...I can never get enough and I always try to buy as much as I can afford. I'm also like you with games...I want to be able to play one every once in a while, but the fact is I don't. I have a stack of old games

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Well, that is the thing here. The cheap is 120, and the best AGP is 240. so it isn't that much money. AGP old tech, so I might as well go with the best. But as far as I can tell ATI doesn't even make a AGP 1950 other manufacturers do with the chipset. So my question is will this

RE: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread Greg Sevart
Well, that is the thing here. The cheap is 120, and the best AGP is 240. so it isn't that much money. AGP old tech, so I might as well go with the best. But as far as I can tell ATI doesn't even make a AGP 1950 other manufacturers do with the chipset. So my question is will this

Re: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-05 Thread j maccraw
Well all I can say after switching from a fried 9800 (that ATI wouldn't warranty) to a X850XT is WOW!. Older R481 but still 256-bit memory unlike the 128-bit 1650 garbage. Just wish I had waited a few more weeks. When I finally had the bread this Xmas to fix my 1.5yr dead 9800 system it didn't

[H] New AGP video card

2007-03-04 Thread Winterlight
I have a dual 3.56 dual Xeon that I am not going to upgrade any time soon. However, it has a AGP 8 slot in it that currently is using a All in Wonder 800XT. The TV tuner quality is so poor it is worthless. It does allow me to capture from my digital cable modem, and that quality is very good.

RE: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-04 Thread Greg Sevart
] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:43 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New AGP video card I have a dual 3.56 dual Xeon that I am not going to upgrade any time soon. However, it has a AGP 8 slot in it that currently is using

RE: [H] New AGP video card

2007-03-04 Thread Winterlight
At 06:21 PM 3/4/2007, you wrote: The X1650Pro would be sufficient. All you need is one dual-link TMDS transmitter and one single-link TMDS transmitter (for a 30 WQXGA and a simultaneous lesser monitor). I'm pretty sure that all 1650's are at least one dual and one single, but I know some are