Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 10:35:06AM +, Tim Ellison wrote: > As discussed on the list, there is a compiler option in the 5.0 > compilers we use that allows source code containing a subset of Java 5.0 > language features to be compiled into 1.4 compatible class files. > > Since this is quite a si

Re: Subclipse Diff: Are there any way to ignore whitespace when creating patch using Subclipse in Eclipse

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
karan malhi wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I would like to volunteer tim to put his eclipse settings up on the wiki, I guess that's currently sort-of our de-facto coding standards rules) and apply it to all the source in one fell swoop. Then you don't have to submit those reformatting patches.

Re: javax.accessibility implementation

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Contributions karan malhi wrote: I am almost finished with the javax.accessibility implementation and would like to submit the code. My understanding is that I would need to file a JIRA issue to submit this code. Would that JIRA issue be under "Classlib" or "Contributions" ?

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: As discussed on the list, there is a compiler option in the 5.0 compilers we use that allows source code containing a subset of Java 5.0 language features to be compiled into 1.4 compatible class files. Since this is quite a significant change I'd like to get a vote on wheth

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Leo Simons wrote: +0 (I think it is a good idea but since I am not working on this stuff I feel my vote shouldn't really "count", and since I'm on the PPMC my vote might otherwise be considered "binding", whereas the opinions of others are way more important) I'd like to point out that every

Re: reformatting in Eclipse

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
just don't svn commit after that :) Tim Ellison wrote: (at the risk of encouraging him...) You can also reformat entire projects in a single click. Select the project, then Source->Format menu option. Enjoy, Tim Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Oliver Deakin wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Oliver

Re: ITC: Contribution of java.rmi

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Thanks - this is great. Please not that every faxed document that both I and Jim, the ASF Secretary, received was unreadable. I can't know if it was the original copy, or the fax machine, but we need to have everything resent again. THanks geir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As announced be

Re: downloading dependencies

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
We need to document this. Would you be willing to submit a patch to the *source* for http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/build_classlib.html (IOW, don't edit the source html... check out https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/harmony/standard/site and follow th

Tooting our Horn #1 : Tim Ellison Singing Harmony at EclipseCon

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim is giving at talk this week at EclipseCon : http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531

Re: Tooting our Horn #1 : Tim Ellison Singing Harmony at EclipseCon

2006-03-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Nice! On 3/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim is giving at talk this week at EclipseCon : > > http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=531 > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/

Tooting our Horn #2 : Article in SD Times

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I want to apologize. I've gotten decent over the years at dealing with journalists, but unless I get a copy of the material before publication - which is rare - it's hard for journalists to get our way of working as peers correctly described. There's an article in SD Times about Harmony, and

test from "nomail"

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
better than breaking the build, I suppose

Re: Tainting testing environment

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: Stepan Mishura wrote: [SNIP] The two things that spring to mind are: - create an internal API helper that we can inject on the bootclasspath (or put in a bundle fragment) that will allow the test case to unset the property. Of course, this will make the entire test Ha

Disregard Harmony-212

2006-03-19 Thread karan malhi
Please disregard the issue Harmony-212. I think I pressed the submit button twice when creating the issue. -- Karan Singh

Re: Disregard Harmony-212

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
done - I closed it karan malhi wrote: Please disregard the issue Harmony-212. I think I pressed the submit button twice when creating the issue.

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
It is available in both Sun and Eclipse compilers (as different names), so I'll take that as +1. Of course, as soon as the JCHEVM can understand 1.5-format class files we'll drop the target flag. Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > > Tim Ellison wrote: >> As discussed on the list, there

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: It is available in both Sun and Eclipse compilers (as different names), so I'll take that as +1. How about IBM? Of course, as soon as the JCHEVM can understand 1.5-format class files we'll drop the target flag. Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Tim Ellison wrote:

Re: [classlib]bug-to-bug compatibility: HashMap

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Mikhail Loenko wrote: > Geir, > > 2006/3/19, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Did we ever come to consensus on how to track these? >> >> We are making a very deliberate and reasonable decision here to not be >> spec compliant, right? > > not exactly. The spec says that "behavior of a map

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > > Tim Ellison wrote: >> It is available in both Sun and Eclipse compilers (as different names), >> so I'll take that as +1. > > How about IBM? Yes, I meant 'Sun-derived'. IBM's Java SDK didn't take that option out, and I would expect to see it in BEA's etc too. Re

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: It is available in both Sun and Eclipse compilers (as different names), so I'll take that as +1. How about IBM? Yes, I meant 'Sun-derived'. IBM's Java SDK didn't take that option out, and I would expect to see it in BEA's etc

Re: NullPointerException

2006-03-19 Thread Chris Gray
On Friday 17 March 2006 08:47, Anton Avtamonov wrote: > Actually null-processing and corresponding NPEs are very very often > omitted from the spec. > I would say that according to the guidelines Paulex proposed (and as I > understood we agreed on) we should be RI-compatible in this case. > Really

JIRA misconfigured?

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
We seem to have b0rked our JIRA config a tad... I tried to close HARMONY-127 because all paperwork/process stuff done and it's in SVN, and I can't - for whatever reason, it's shows a dropdown of estimated complexity, and when I try to close, it says invalid. Hm. geir

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Craig Blake
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the Sun compiler actually lets you specify the source as 1.5 and the target as 1.4; every version of the 1.5 compiler I have tried that on gives an error: javac: source release 1.5 requires target release 1.5 So, it seems that relying on that parti

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Craig, You are right, the target for Sun-based compilers is "jsr14" (but it means the same thing) See: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Tim Craig Blake wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the Sun compiler act

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Craig Blake
Wow, you learn something new every day. That's very cool, indeed. Thanks for the info. Craig Blake On Mar 19, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Tim Ellison wrote: Craig, You are right, the target for Sun-based compilers is "jsr14" (but it means the same thing) See: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mb

[continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Apache Harmony Build
Online report : http://ibmonly.hursley.ibm.com/continuum/linux.ia32/servlet/continuum/target/ProjectBuild.vm/view/ProjectBuild/id/1/buildId/276 Build statistics: State: Error Previous State: Ok Started at: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:00:00 + Finished at: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:03:11 + Total

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This build report didn't work for me... I wasn't able to get to it. Apache Harmony Build wrote: Online report : http://ibmonly.hursley.ibm.com/continuum/linux.ia32/servlet/continuum/target/ProjectBuild.vm/view/ProjectBuild/id/1/buildId/276 Build statistics: State: Error Previous State: Ok

AWT and Swing implementation

2006-03-19 Thread karan malhi
Hi, I would like to start contributing towards the AWT and Swing implementation. I need help on how to get started, what native toolkits could be considered for this implementation? Are we looking at writing Java Wrappers to native widgets from scratch or using something already available ?

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
You won't be able to follow the URL - it's a machine behind the IBM firewall (seems that we cannot trivially remove that URL from the mail message, so we called the machine 'ibmonly'). The build message is included at the end. Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > This build report didn't work

Re: AWT and Swing implementation

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
It's my understanding that we may get a significant contribution in this area, so you may want to hold off on this for a little while. What else are you interested in? Msybe some of the tool work? geir karan malhi wrote: Hi, I would like to start contributing towards the AWT and Swing impl

Re: AWT and Swing implementation

2006-03-19 Thread karan malhi
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: It's my understanding that we may get a significant contribution in this area, so you may want to hold off on this for a little while. What else are you interested in? Msybe some of the tool work? Tool work would be interesting. Could you suggest something I could

[tools] Discusison (was Re: AWT and Swing implementation)

2006-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Well, in tools we need all the tools you get with a JDK... geir karan malhi wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: It's my understanding that we may get a significant contribution in this area, so you may want to hold off on this for a little while. What else are you interested in? Msybe some

RE: [classlib] Java namespace in org.apache.harmony

2006-03-19 Thread Dan Lydick
I encourage the use of our name space as "org.apache.harmony" for three reasons to start out with: (1) simplicity of identification by _any_ interested party anywhere, and (2) this is the requested format in Java development guidelines as they have been developed over the life of the Java languag

Re: [classlib] Java namespace in org.apache.harmony

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Dan, We agreed to use org.apache.harmony as our package name prefixes, and even refined that with the following guidelines in the class library: http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/pkgnaming.html Regards, Tim Dan Lydick wrote: > I encourage the use of our name space as

[continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Apache Harmony Build
Online report : http://ibmonly.hursley.ibm.com/continuum/linux.ia32/servlet/continuum/target/ProjectBuild.vm/view/ProjectBuild/id/1/buildId/282 Build statistics: State: Error Previous State: Ok Started at: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:00:00 + Finished at: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:00:04 + Total

Re: [result] Re: [vote] Acceptance of HARMONY-39 : Contribution of beans, regex and math class library code

2006-03-19 Thread Richard Liang
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Despite a touch of trouble with the packaging of the contribution, it passed with flying colors ( or 'colours', for our UK friends...) +1 from : Geir Stefano Dims Tim Leo In it comes Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I have received the ACQs and the BCC for Harmony-39, so

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Richard Liang
Tim Ellison wrote: You won't be able to follow the URL - it's a machine behind the IBM firewall (seems that we cannot trivially remove that URL from the mail message, so we called the machine 'ibmonly'). The build message is included at the end. Regards, Tim Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: This b

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-19 Thread Stepan Mishura
+1 Thanks, Stepan. On 3/17/06, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As discussed on the list, there is a compiler option in the 5.0 > compilers we use that allows source code containing a subset of Java 5.0 > language features to be compiled into 1.4 compatible class files. > > Since this

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Richard Liang wrote: > Hello Tim, > > Not sure if we could attach the build report in email directly. Any > comments? :-) The report *is* in the email; the problem was: "...could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org)" The build machine sends notification on each state change (i.e. f

Re: Update on build status

2006-03-19 Thread Stepan Mishura
Hi Mark, On 3/16/06, Mark Hindess wrote: > > Our local builds now complete a two stage build. First with a > certified JDK and then with the eclipse compiler running on the VME > and deploy directory from the first stage build. They then run the > tests. > > I'm also generating some reports as p

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Stepan Mishura
On 3/20/06, Tim Ellison wrote: > > Richard Liang wrote: > > Hello Tim, > > > > Not sure if we could attach the build report in email directly. Any > > comments? :-) > > The report *is* in the email; the problem was: >"...could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org)" > > The build machin

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Richard Liang
Tim Ellison wrote: Richard Liang wrote: Hello Tim, Not sure if we could attach the build report in email directly. Any comments? :-) The report *is* in the email; the problem was: "...could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org)" The build machine sends notification on ea

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Stepan Mishura wrote: > May be it makes sense to send notifications to commits mailing list like for > JIRA notifications? Sure, makes sense. We'd have to ask Geir to allow the posts through again ;-) Regards, Tim -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK.

Re: [continuum] BUILD ERROR: Classlib/linux.ia32

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Richard Liang wrote: > Hello Tim, > > Then we have two "connection" problems. :-) > > 1. As Geir said, he cannot connect to the "Online report" link in the > email > "http://ibmonly.hursley.ibm.com/continuum/linux.ia32/servlet/continuum/target/ProjectBuild.vm/view/ProjectBuild/id/1/buildId/276";

Re: Update on build status

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Stepan Mishura wrote: > I found that some classes from javax.crypto (for example, SecretKey) in the > list of required classes for continuum and geronimo. I verified that they > are present in the repository. What is wrong with them? They are being built into crypto.jar in the SECURITY module buil