Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread theUser BL
At first I want to cite myself: Sun have given with OpenOffice.org the OpenSource-community a lot. But with Java, it looks a little bit diffrent. And the reason is, that Java _is_ already popular. So they see no need to make it more popular. [...] The idea behind it is clear: Letting a platform

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Sheref Younan
On 5/18/05, theUser BL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this here is a new article: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/16/1358227from=rss It seems, that now Sun want to bring more and more parts of OOo2 to the Java-platform. Greatings theuserbl how does this article

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Hi Danese, Since the VOTE on the proposal has closed with a positive result. I'd love to hear with your INTEL hat on :) -- dims On 5/18/05, Danese Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much as I admire James, I have to say that the responses from enterprise developers of which he presumably speaks

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Danese Cooper wrote: Yup in a nutshell. I'd like to see James keynote at ApacheCon one of these years soon :-) What *I*'d like to see is *our* keynote at JavaOne :-) -- Stefano, who was part of a javaone keynote already once and would not mind doing it again :-)

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Danese Cooper
LOL, I'm not exactly in a position to influence that anymore, Stefano :-) What say you, Simon Phipps? Danese On May 18, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Danese Cooper wrote: Yup in a nutshell. I'd like to see James keynote at ApacheCon one of these years soon :-) What *I*'d

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Dalibor Topic
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Danese Cooper wrote: Yup in a nutshell. I'd like to see James keynote at ApacheCon one of these years soon :-) What *I*'d like to see is *our* keynote at JavaOne :-) What I'd like to see is a keynote where someone covers M.A.R.R.S. 'Pump Up The Volume' in true Atari

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On May 18, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: I completely agree with this. I regret that James showed how out of touch he was with real open source practice (crazy answer about put- backs), but my interactions with him (most recently at Cafe Brasil where he also met with Dalibor and

Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-17 Thread Tomer Barletz
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/28125?trk=DXRSS_JAVA Looks like Doc java is pretty upset...

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
The clear need that Magnusson cites is anything but clear to Gosling, who says Sun has received negative response from the enterprise development community regarding the idea of open-source Java. welcome to the matrix, guys ;) On 5/17/05, Tomer Barletz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: