Re: [ha-Safran]: Request for special Grace After Meals

2005-03-16 Thread Mordechai (Morty) Schiller
I just checked a beautiful bencher I have called "Nevarech." Surprisingly, it doesn't have the Harachamans. But the design and photos of Israel are something to see. Once I got over the distraction of the Israel "slide show" I found it gave more feeling--and new meaning--to some of the words.

RE: [ha-Safran]: Request for special Grace After Meals

2005-03-16 Thread Randy Belinfante
Though I was not able to find the prayer for the soldiers of the IDF, the Sephardim (O) most definitely use the prayer for the State of Israel. It is found both among the Western Sephardic and among the Mediterranean Sephardic liturgy (See Seder ha-tefilot : ke-fi minhag ha-Sefaradim ba-Amerika

Re: [ha-Safran]: Request for special Grace After Meals

2005-03-16 Thread Stanley Nachamie
Most birkat ha-mazon booklets contain the traditional Ashkenazic text of the prayer, even if they are not specifically published by an "Orthodox" publisher. The "bentsher" published by UJA has some extra "harachaman"s, but I'm not sure if one of those is for Israeli soldiers. I've seen these hara

RE: [ha-Safran]: Request for special Grace After Meals

2005-03-16 Thread Donald Weinshank
Yes. My idea is that you will NOT find them. For example, look at p. 192 of the SIDDUR KOL YAAKOV by ArtScroll, 1984, ISBN 0-89906-650-x. You will NOT find these prayers. The reason is very straightforward: the blessing reishet smichat g'ulateinu ("the dawn of our redemption" in one [C] source or