RE: Haskell98 undefinedness

2001-09-12 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Yes, it's the same as exporting just B(..) or B(C). I guess I should try to make this clearer. S | -Original Message- | From: Sigbjorn Finne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: 11 September 2001 20:31 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Haskell98 undefinedness | | | What's the meaning o

Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread S . J . Thompson
A thought to dicscuss for next year's Haskell workshop. This is the second year running that there have been no submissions accepted in the `application letters' category for the Haskell workshop. It seems that this comes from the fact that these are not getting the same grades as submissions fo

The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread S . J . Thompson
There was a discussion at the Haskell workshop on the future of the language. It would be great to have some sort of minutes from this for those who were unable to attend. I gather that a standard GUI was mentioned; I'd particularly like to hear about what, if anything, was resolved about that.

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread Olaf Chitil
Here a short summary by Malcolm and me of the final discussion at the Haskell workshop: First Simon Peyton Jones stated that the Haskell'98 Report continues to be revised in small ways for correctness and readability. He will continue this until a whole month passes with no further changes, the

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread Johannes Waldmann
> ... there have been no submissions accepted in the > `application letters' category for the Haskell workshop. that seems strange indeed. two reasons come to mind: a) there ARE no proper real world applications of Haskell (only a rather large number of so called pearls) b) these things do e

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread kahl
Olaf Chitil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> summarised the 10 minute talks of this years Haskell workshop, including my presentation: > Wolfram Kahl: Animating Haskell by Term Graph Rewriting > HOPS is a system for term graph rewriting that can also show the > rewriting steps in a graphical animation. [...]

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread Mark Carroll
It seems like a common thread is a shortage of willing programming effort so that things may be maintained and improved. Would it be worth thinking about how to promote Haskell in communities where people might be willing and able to contribute to the work? (Much thanks to the people who are alre

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread Ketil Malde
Johannes Waldmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ... there have been no submissions accepted in the >> `application letters' category for the Haskell workshop. Really? > a) there ARE no proper real world applications of Haskell >(only a rather large number of so called pearls) > b) these t

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread Ross Paterson
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:04:06AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A thought to dicscuss for next year's Haskell workshop. This is the > second year running that there have been no submissions accepted in the > `application letters' category for the Haskell workshop. A minor point: last year i

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:00:38 +0100, Olaf Chitil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > Mark Shields: Lightweight Modules for Haskell > Shortly stated that he is working on a new module system and would like > every interested person to join. I'm interested. How to join? -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * [EMAIL

Re: Haskell report (August release)

2001-09-12 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:00:35 -0700, Simon Peyton-Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > Please check it out. My plan is that if I hear nothing for a month, > I'll freeze it. Otherwise I'll iterate. I'll send some minor issues in September (much less than before it seems). Please wait... -- __("<

Tab "\t" character behaviour in (Win)Hugs/ghc

2001-09-12 Thread Rijk-Jan van Haaften
Hello, Recently, Craig Delehanty discovered that there is a difference in behaviour of putStr "a\tb" between Hugs and WinHugs (see comp.lang.functional). Hugs interprets it as a alignment character: >putStr "a\tb" "a b" > (7 spaces) but in WinHugs, it is always the same as 8 spaces: >pu

Re: Haskell98 undefinedness

2001-09-12 Thread Sigbjorn Finne
So, it's not considered an error if you do something like module A ( B(C), ...some other stuff..., B(D) ) where ... data B = C | D but C and D is exported. Is the extra flexibility of allowing duplicates really worth it? --sigbjorn - Original Message - From: "Simon Peyton-Jon

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-12 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
12 Sep 2001 12:37:25 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > * Currently HOPS implements only one evaluation strategy, > namely leftmost outermost graph rewriting with sharing preservation > (without automatic sharing maximisation). > With the standard rules in place, this co

RE: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread brk
This is an area of grave concern for me. I am still quite new to Haskell, so perhaps I should wait until others have spoken, but I'll go ahead anyway. I certainly don't mean to offend anyone, so please bear with me. Speaking as an 'industrial' programmer who gave a 30-minute application presentat

Re: Haskell98 undefinedness

2001-09-12 Thread Iavor S. Diatchki
hello, On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 08:51:20AM -0700, Sigbjorn Finne wrote: > > So, it's not considered an error if you do something > like > > module A ( B(C), ...some other stuff..., B(D) ) where > ... > data B = C | D > > but C and D is exported. Is the extra flexibility of > allowing du

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread Alastair David Reid
I think there's a lot of truth in all you said in your message and I make the following comment merely as a point of information. > I think I speak for the majority of 'industrial' programmers when I > say Haskell is a very difficult language to approach. I believe a > great deal of this difficu

RE: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-12 Thread brk
> I think there's a lot of truth in all you said in your message and I > make the following comment merely as a point of information. [Bryn Keller] Thanks very much, I was hoping my comments would be taken constructively. > > I think I speak for the majority of 'industrial' pro