Re: Arrays and Assoc [ errata filterArray ]

1993-10-06 Thread Thomas Johnsson
Sorry, the definition of filterArray should read: filterArray f z b list = array b [ i := foldr f z [ x | j:=x <- list, i==j ] | i <- indices b ] -- Thomas

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-06 Thread Thomas Johnsson
> I agree, but I also agree with Lennart that both sorts of arrays are needed. Yes, I agree on that; language design is, as always, a compromise between the desirable semantics (in this case, as lazy as possible), and desirable efficency, and we don't know yet how to make lazy arrays a la LML a

Re: re. Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-06 Thread Thomas Johnsson
> > Thomas Johnsson says: > > >If I recall correctly, the := to be used in array comprehensions was a > >consession to the FORTRAN/Id/Sisal community, so that array comprehensions > >would look more like they were used to. > > Both Arvind and I think this is notation is awful, and

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-06 Thread Thomas Johnsson
> >Let me just remind people what the LML arrays does: > > > >example: > >lmlarray 1 3 f list = > >array [ 1:= f [ x | (1,x) <- list], > >2:= f [ x | (2,x) <- list], > >3:= f [ x | (3,x) <- list] > > ]

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Lennart Augustsson
> >But I think we can have the cake and eat it too, if we get rid of the > >restriction (which I never liked) that operators beginning with : must be a > >constructor: just define > >a := b = (a,b) > > Unfortunately that won't work if := had been used in patterns. I think > backward compatibil

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Lennart Augustsson
> >But I think we can have the cake and eat it too, if we get rid of the > >restriction (which I never liked) that operators beginning with : must be a > >constructor: just define > >a := b = (a,b) > > Unfortunately that won't work if := had been used in patterns. Nonsense. Of course construc

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread John Launchbury
>But I think we can have the cake and eat it too, if we get rid of the >restriction (which I never liked) that operators beginning with : must be a >constructor: just define >a := b = (a,b) Unfortunately that won't work if := had been used in patterns. I think backward compatibility is an issu

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Thomas Johnsson
John Launchbury says: > 1. We should get rid of Assoc. > > When explaining my programs to other people I find this is a point of > confusion. Imagine exaplaining array construction, "When I define an array, > the comprehension produces a list of index/value pairs, only they are not > written as

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Lennart Augustsson
> 1. We should get rid of Assoc. I agree wholeheartedly! Do we have tp consider backwards compat? > 2. Arrays should be lazier. I agree again. But I think both kinds should be provided. > 3. AccumArray should mimic foldr, not foldl. Right! -- Lennart

Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread John Launchbury
Here are three comments directed particularly at Haskell 1.3 people, but obviously open to general feedback. 1. We should get rid of Assoc. When explaining my programs to other people I find this is a point of confusion. Imagine exaplaining array construction, "When I define an array, the compr

Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread rabin
John Launchbury makes the suggestion, inter alia, that Haskell 1.3 `should get rid of Assoc.' Reading some of the followup messages, I see that there is some division on this point. Those closer to the scientific applications community, such as Nikhil and Joe Fasel's acquaintances, seem to be w

Re: Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Joe Fasel
John Launchbury says, | Here are three comments directed particularly at Haskell 1.3 people, but | obviously open to general feedback. | | 1. We should get rid of Assoc. | | When explaining my programs to other people I find this is a point of | confusion. Imagine exaplaining array construction,

Re: re. Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread Joe Fasel
Nikhil says, | Thomas Johnsson says: | | >If I recall correctly, the := to be used in array comprehensions was a | >consession to the FORTRAN/Id/Sisal community, so that array comprehensions | >would look more like they were used to. | | Both Arvind and I think this is notation is aw

re. Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread nikhil
Thomas Johnsson says: >If I recall correctly, the := to be used in array comprehensions was a >consession to the FORTRAN/Id/Sisal community, so that array comprehensions >would look more like they were used to. Both Arvind and I think this is notation is awful, and I don't recall e

re. Arrays and Assoc

1993-10-05 Thread nikhil
Two of John Launchbury's suggestions for Haskell 1.3 would mesh well with the pH (parallel Haskell) effort: >1. We should get rid of Assoc. > >When explaining my programs to other people I find this is a point of >confusion. Imagine exaplaining array construction, "When I define