Re: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic,... (Jerzy Karczmarczuk)

2001-04-02 Thread Dejan Jelovic
Jerzy Karczmarczuk wrote: > 1. I didn't find ANYTHING about FP on your pages, > only that accusations. I already explained that was not an accusation. How does it follow that since there's nothing else about FP on my website that I "never had anything to do with functional languages"? Do you re

Re: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic,...

2001-04-02 Thread Brian Boutel
Jerzy Karczmarczuk wrote: > 2. You neglect, and I suspect that you do it on purpose, that the main >driving force behind the evolution of Haskell is *RESEARCH*. An issue >absent from many "popular" languages which are meant to be > immediately >exploitable with very flat learning curv

Re: Visual Haskell

2001-04-02 Thread Jan Skibinski
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Jason J. Libsch wrote: > The reason that this paper so peaked my interest is that i have been > working on a system that is tremendously similar to the one described in > this paper- it's as if Dr. Reekie Van Eck phreaked my head or notebooks > (unfortunatly, my designs have

Re: Visual Haskell

2001-04-02 Thread Jason J. Libsch
The reason that this paper so peaked my interest is that i have been working on a system that is tremendously similar to the one described in this paper- it's as if Dr. Reekie Van Eck phreaked my head or notebooks (unfortunatly, my designs have not progressed past pen and paper.) from the other si

Re: Visual Haskell

2001-04-02 Thread Toby Watson
Hi, Good find! NB: I just skimmed the paper so far, but it is a long-term area of interest for me... I find most of these visual systems awkward to use in practice. Quite often this is because they have very poor interface designs (they are like old modal CAD systems). This is troublesome, leadi

Visual Haskell

2001-04-02 Thread Jason J. Libsch
I recently ran across a paper, Visual Haskell- a First Attempt, and was tremendously impressed. Has anybody here played with this language or read the paper? I would be interested to hear other's opinion on such a language. http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/~johnr/papers/visual.html /jason

Re: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic, etc. on O'Reilly site

2001-04-02 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:59:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), S. Alexander Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.python/python_varieties.html > > Of particular note here is Vyper implemented in OCAML, which adds tail > calls, list comprehensions, lexical

RE: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic, etc. on O'Reilly site

2001-04-02 Thread S. Alexander Jacobson
FYI, there are multiple python implementations out there. See http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.python/python_varieties.html Of particular note here is Vyper implemented in OCAML, which adds tail calls, list comprehensions, lexical scoping, full garbage collection, and pattern matchin

RE: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic, etc. on O'Reilly site

2001-04-02 Thread Julian Seward (Intl Vendor)
S. Alexander Jacobsen wrote: | Although I think Haskell is a beautiful language, Jelovic is right on his | core points, Haskell implementations don't meet the needs of | the working programmer. [...] I also largely agree with Jelovic, and I take what he says as constructive criticism. One obs

Re: "Lambda Dance", Haskell polemic,...

2001-04-02 Thread Jerzy Karczmarczuk
Dejan Jelovic wrote: > > Jerzy Karczmarczuk wrote: > > > Over and over again the same silly song, by a person who - visibly - > > had never anything to do with functional languages, who thinks now > > about hiring some C and java programmers living in Belgrade > > I don't understand how you ded