Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Sturdy, Ian
Being in favor of not needlessly harassing people, even for a few minutes, I would favor issuing such emails only when there is some reason to believe that the package is not maintained. The two situations I can see that would justify such an email: - A dependency exceeds the upper bound listed

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Dan P.
On Monday 06 May 2013 14:34:13 Tobias Dammers wrote: > The problem is that people tend to (truthfully) check such a box, then > stop maintaining the package for whatever reasons, and never bother > unchecking the box. I think there should be just one mail per maintainer mail address, not per pack

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Clark Gaebel
Deepseq comes to mind regarding a "perfect" package that doesn't require active maintenance. - Clark On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Petr Pudlák wrote: > 2013/5/6 Tillmann Rendel > >> Petr Pudlák wrote: >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: *Niklas Hambüchen* mail

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Petr Pudlák
2013/5/6 Tillmann Rendel > Petr Pudlák wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- >> From: *Niklas Hambüchen* mailto:m...@nh2.me>> >> Date: 2013/5/4 >> ... >> I would even be happy with newhackage sending every package >> maintainer a >> quarterly question "Would

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Felipe Almeida Lessa
I do think it's a real problem even for seasoned haskellers. I don't have problems in remembering which packages I should use for the things I've already used before recently, but I need to search Hackage just as everyone else as soon as I need to do something new. I also agree that this is more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: Robot - Simulate keyboard and mouse events under X11

2013-05-06 Thread Jeanne-Kamikaze
Looks like an interesting library. Will it be able to read pixels from a window at some point? On 23 April 2013 06:02, Chris Wong wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the initial release of Robot! > > Robot lets you send fake keyboard and mouse events, just like its > namesake in Java. > > Only X11

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Carter Schonwald
is that really a problem though? Who's problem are we trying to solve? Is this being proposed to help seasoned haskellers, or make getting started easier for new folks? those are two VERY different problems. Also many of the maintainers for heavily used packages are incredibly busy as is, do they

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Niklas Hambüchen
Well, that's what the "once every 3 months" is good for. On Mon 06 May 2013 20:34:13 SGT, Tobias Dammers wrote: > The problem is that people tend to (truthfully) check such a box, then > stop maintaining the package for whatever reasons, and never bother > unchecking the box. ___

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Tobias Dammers
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:14:59PM +0800, Niklas Hambüchen wrote: > On 06/05/13 20:06, Tillmann Rendel wrote: > > Is "a human clicked the check box" a good metric for "a human commits > > themselves to this package"? > > If the check box has the text "Do you want this thing to be called > 'maintai

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Niklas Hambüchen
On 06/05/13 20:06, Tillmann Rendel wrote: > Is "a human clicked the check box" a good metric for "a human commits > themselves to this package"? If the check box has the text "Do you want this thing to be called 'maintained' on Hackage" next to it, yes. ___

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Lyndon Maydwell
Don't underestimate how greatly people appreciate being saved a couple of minutes! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Niklas Hambüchen wrote: > On 06/05/13 17:46, Tillmann Rendel wrote: > > So what about this: Hackage could try to automatically collect and > > display information about the develop

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Tillmann Rendel
Hi, Niklas Hambüchen wrote: Having the metrics you mention is nice, but still they are just metrics and say little the only thing that's important: Is there a human who commits themselves to this package? I like the idea of displaying additional info about the status of package developmen

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Niklas Hambüchen
On 06/05/13 17:46, Tillmann Rendel wrote: > So what about this: Hackage could try to automatically collect and > display information about the development status of packages that allow > potential users to *guess* In my opinion, that's what we have now. Obtaining the info in the four points you m

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage checking maintainership of packages

2013-05-06 Thread Tillmann Rendel
Hi, Petr Pudlák wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: *Niklas Hambüchen* mailto:m...@nh2.me>> Date: 2013/5/4 ... I would even be happy with newhackage sending every package maintainer a quarterly question "Would you still call your project X 'maintained'?"