Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hoogle vs Hayoo

2013-08-23 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:12:27AM +0200, Erik Hesselink wrote: > Note that the 'normal' hoogle indexes all (?) of hackage. But by > default it only searches the haskell platform. You can add a package > with '+' to search in that package. E.g. "PublicKey +crypto-api". If the idea behind this, th

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Identity of indiscernibles

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Tom, > See [1] for an explanation of free monads in general. For IO in particular, > define a functor > > data IOF a = GetChar (Char -> a) | PutChar Char a | ... > > with constructors for all elementary IO operations. But how should this work if the user adds an IO operation, e.g by wr

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Generating Haskell Code out of Haskell AST (GHC API)

2013-07-19 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi John, > Alan - I do NOT want to generate Haskell code. I want only to generate AST > and compile it. > The question about generating the code was only to have a "debugging tool" > - to see if the generated AST is good - I wanted to generate the Haskell > code only to check if its correct, but

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HTML framework for web-ui

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Adrian, > What's an exception? I thought Haskell used Maybe. Haskell also has exceptions: dan@machine ~> ghci Prelude> head [] *** Exception: Prelude.head: empty list I also consider them as quite problematic, especially if they're used in libraries, but sometimes we're all a bit lazy and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] list comprehension doesn't work

2013-05-14 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Mateusz, > I don't think my post was out of order at all and I don't understand > why it sparked such an... energetic response - that wasn't my intent > at all. A friendly response might contain the things you told John, but it could also be a bit more empathic, otherwise its easy to perceive

Re: [Haskell-cafe] case switch covering all possible constructor but still fails

2013-04-13 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Nathan, > DataAlt c | Right tag <- genDataConTag c -> return $ Cond tag Are you sure, that genDataConTag always returns a 'Right'? If it returns a 'Left', than the pattern won't match. Greetings, Daniel ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Prolog-style patterns

2013-04-09 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Jan, On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 01:32:33PM +0200, Jan Stolarek wrote: > Thanks for pointing me to earlier discussions on this subject - they are > enlightening :) One > particular argument "against" seems to be very convincing to me: > > "From a language design point of view, it should be note

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Prolog-style patterns

2013-04-09 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Roman, > In fact, lots of Haskell newcomers are surprised that > > f 10 = 42 > > is not the same as > > n = 10 > f n = 42 Well, yes, at the beginning I've been also surprised about this. But allowing this seems to be even more error prone, because now you could "bind" function argum

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Prolog-style patterns

2013-04-09 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Roman, > One issue with it in Haskell is that it'd lead to inconsistent > semantics: > > myEq x x = True > > is not the same as > > myEq x y = > case y of > x -> True I don't think that it's inconsistent, because the 'case' defines a new name scope, like the function does for

Re: [Haskell-cafe] code-as-config, run-time checks and error locations

2013-04-06 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Steffen, most of the time I'm just using these cpp macros: #define __POS__(__FILE__ ++ ":" ++ show __LINE__) #define ERROR error $ __POS__ ++ " -> " ++ Instead of writing 'error "blub"' you would write 'ERROR "blub"' and additionally get the file name and the line. There's a brac

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Remove redundancy with Template Haskell

2013-03-27 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Corentin, On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 09:13:41PM +0100, Corentin Dupont wrote: > I have a function that looks like this: > call :: SomeFunction -> String -> SomeState > > The string is actually the representation of the function passed in > parameter. It is stored in the state for documentation.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Make a DSL serializable

2013-03-25 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Michael, On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 05:13:35PM -0500, Michael Better wrote: > Isn't this similar to the problem Cloud Haskell had to solve to send code > to another process to run? As much as I know, the sendable code of 'Cloud Haskell' is limited, you can't just send any kind of function. http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Make a DSL serializable

2013-03-24 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Corentin, > I have a DSL like this: > data Exp where > OnEvent :: EventName -> (Int -> Exp) -> Exp > (...) > > The "OnEvent" element carries a function (the handler to be called when the > event happens), and that makes my DSL non showable/serializable. > How could I fix that? This i

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Overloading

2013-03-10 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Peter, > -- smart constructor with serialNumber > date serialNumber > | serialNumber > 0 = Date serialNumber > | otherwise = error ("invalid serialNumber " ++ show serialNumber) Instead of raising an error it's more secure to return a Maybe value. date :: Int -> Maybe Date

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RFC: rewrite-with-location proposal

2013-02-26 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Michael, On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 02:41:19PM +0200, Michael Snoyman wrote: > At that point, we've now made two changes to REWRITE rules: > > 1. They can takes a new ALWAYS parameters. > 2. There's a new, special identifier currentLocation available. > > What would be the advantage is of that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] layers: A prototypical 2d platform game

2013-02-19 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 02:15:33PM +0100, Vo Minh Thu wrote: > Screenshots obviously ;) Hurray! <>___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] layers: A prototypical 2d platform game

2013-02-19 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Henk-Jan, > It seems to me that there is something missing from this e-mail. What are you missing? Greetings, Daniel ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

[Haskell-cafe] layers: A prototypical 2d platform game

2013-02-18 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi all, also if there's not that much to see and only a few minutes of gameplay, but after spending quite a few hours writing it, getting a feeling for Haskell and it's usage, perhaps it's in some way useful for someone, even if just for a few minutes of distraction. https://github.com/dan-t/lay

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: hgdbmi 0.2, GDB Machine Interface

2013-01-19 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Alex, On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Alexander Bernauer wrote: > I thought it would make sense to use these names for ease of > reference. Given this, would you still prefer them being grouped in > separate modules? Yes, I still think that having separate modules can be beneficial,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: hgdbmi 0.2, GDB Machine Interface

2013-01-18 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Alexander, On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:17:33PM +0100, Alexander Bernauer wrote: > I am happy to announce the second release of hgdbmi, a Haskell > implementation of the GDB Machine Interface. Nice project! :) > PS: This is my first serious Haskell package. If you see something > that you cons

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Layer on a layer of record syntax in the type synonym?

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Christopher, On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:36:04AM -0900, Christopher Howard wrote: > Using a simple type I gave earlier from my monadic type question... > > code: > > data Socket3 a b c = Socket3 a b c > deriving (Show) > > > Is it possible somehow to layer on record syntax

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage suggestion: Gather the list of the licenses of all dependencies of a package

2012-12-13 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 08:40:09PM +0200, Michael Snoyman wrote: > If you have a commercial use for cpphs, and feel the terms of the (L)GPL > are too onerous, you have the option of distributing unmodified binaries > (only, not sources) under the terms of a different licence (see > LICENCE-commerc

[Haskell-cafe] Common function names for '(.) . (.)', '(.) . (.) . (.)' ...?

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Not exporting a class

2012-11-11 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Joachim, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 02:10:34PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > dear package authors. If you define a useful class, please think twice > before you do not export the methods, otherwise something like this will > happen: I like the way 'Common Lisp' deals with this issue. Exported

[Haskell-cafe] Input Handling, Callbacks, State Machines

2012-11-03 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi all, I'm currently struggling in the search for a nice abstraction for the input handling of a game (it's a simple platformer with rectangular platforms). One good example is the level editor of the game. When pressing the left mouse button the creation of a new platform is started. As long a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Sparse records/ADTs

2012-10-24 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Jon On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:08:29AM +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote: > for each field, which is tedious (and O(n)). Obviously Templates > would help, but is there an alternative I’ve missed? perhaps something like: data Type = Ta | Tb | Tc ... data E= Ea A | Eb B | Ec C | ... type D=

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Platform Versioning Policy: upper bounds are not our friends

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:33:17PM -0400, wren ng thornton wrote: > However, there are certainly cases where we have hard upper > bounds[1][2][3], and ignoring those is not fine. Circumventing hard > upper bounds should require altering the .cabal file, given as > getting things to compile will re

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Platform Versioning Policy: upper bounds are not our friends

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 03:54:04PM -0700, Michael Sloan wrote: > Upper bounds are a bit of a catch-22 when it comes to library authors evolving > their APIs: > > 1) If library clients aren't encouraged to specify which version of the >exported API they target, then changing APIs can lead to o

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Data structure containing elements which are instances of the same type class

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Oleg, On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 08:14:47AM -, o...@okmij.org wrote: > I'd like to point out that the only operation we can do on the first > argument of MkFoo is to show to it. This is all we can ever do: > we have no idea of its type but we know we can show it and get a > String. Why not to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Data structure containing elements which are instances of the same type class

2012-08-07 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Joey, On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 02:13:09PM -0400, Joey Adams wrote: > Are you looking for existential quantification [1]? > > data SomeFoo = forall a. Foo a => a > > [1]: > http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/data-type-extensions.html#existential-quantification Thank

[Haskell-cafe] Data structure containing elements which are instances of the same type class

2012-08-07 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi all, it should be possible a call a function on all elements of the data structure, to add and remove elements. What I currently have: the type class: class Foo a where hasId :: a -> Int -> Maybe a a few instances: data A = A deriving Show instance Foo A where hasId a 1 = Just a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Maintainer of pngload listening?

2012-06-30 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi Ivan, thanks, but l have been able to build it by myself. I just want to get the package updated and if the maintainer can't be reached, than ask for maintainership. Greetings, Daniel ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://w

[Haskell-cafe] Maintainer of pngload listening?

2012-06-28 Thread Daniel Trstenjak
Hi, Marko Lauronens email address from the package is invalid, so I'm trying to reach him this way. pngload doesn't compile with ghc >= 7.2 because of it's dependency to base and haskell98. Greetings, Daniel ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Ca