; on the other, it *does* help to
catch thinkos like the above.
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On Friday, February 15, 2013 at 2:33 AM, sheng chen wrote:
Hi,
I was puzzled by the following little program.
sum' [] = []
sum' (x:xs) = x + sum' xs
It's worth remembering that the main gain from lex/yacc had originally to do
with making the generated programs fit into 64K address space on a PDP11 more
than with any direct performance efficiency.
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On 5/7/11 15:10 , Eitan Goldshtrom wrote:
I get the error Couldn't match expected type `[Char]' with actual type `a0
- c0'. The only way it seems to work is
f p = putStrLn $ (show (Main.id p)) ++ - message received
Interestingly enough, you have
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On 4/26/11 09:15 , Daniel Fischer wrote:
On Tuesday 26 April 2011 02:00:32, jutaro wrote:
Well, it is a bit more intricate to invert the sides. After
* swapping LeftP and RightP in Edit Prefs - Initial Pane positions
* Close all panes and pane
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On 3/18/11 00:43 , Conal Elliott wrote:
Speaking of which, for a while now I've been interested in designs of
make-like systems that have precise simple (denotational) semantics with
pleasant properties. What Peter Landin called denotative (as
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On 3/16/11 00:10 , Dylan Alex Simon wrote:
Does anyone know the current maintenance status of the X11 package? I emailed
Spencer Janssen a number of months ago and never heard back. So, I'll put
this here in case any one else runs into it or can
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On 3/13/11 03:16 , bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
ghc: fdWriteBuf: resource vanished (Broken pipe)
which make sense, sort of. I write a value, let's say 10, and the
reader reads it. It's the last value so it closes the fifo.
Now there's nothing
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On 3/3/11 20:09 , Jacek Generowicz wrote:
1 2 ok, same group
1 3 dito
1 2 dito
Thus you get [[1,2,3,2]]
OK, that works, but it seems like a strange choice ...
Stability is often valued in functions like this: the order of elements is
not
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On 2/16/11 00:51 , Evan Laforge wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 February 2011 14:46, Evan Laforge qdun...@gmail.com wrote:
I just got started on this because packages are
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(I'm probably glossing over important stuff and getting some details wrong,
as usual, but I hope it's good enough to give some idea of what's going on.)
On 2/15/11 11:57 , Rafael Cunha de Almeida wrote:
What state is that? It seems to be something
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On 2/11/11 06:06 , C K Kashyap wrote:
I've come across this a few times - In Haskell, once can prove the
correctness of the code - Is this true?
Only up to a point. While most of the responses so far focus on the
question from one direction, the
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On 2/11/11 14:20 , Cristiano Paris wrote:
God! It seems like I'm reading the small-character lines of a contract :)
Wait until you encounter the equivalent of rules-lawyering in the type system :)
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On 2/7/11 12:36 , Donn Cave wrote:
I don't know the OpenGL example, but I gather you're talking about
an API that's different in a practical way, not just a thin layer
with the names spelled differently. In that case, assuming that
it really is
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On 2/2/11 20:06 , wren ng thornton wrote:
When I put this all together, the process is killed with:
control message: Just (Err endOfInput)
POSIX FIFOs and GHC's nonblocking file descriptors implementation don't play
well together; you should
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On 2/3/11 19:16 , Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
POSIX FIFOs and GHC's nonblocking file descriptors implementation don't play
well together; you should launch the writer end first and let it block
More specifically, I think what's happening here
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On 2/2/11 04:03 , Francesco Mazzoli wrote:
Conrad Parker conrad at metadecks.org writes:
On 31 January 2011 21:40, Francesco Mazzoli f at mazzo.li wrote:
Francesco Mazzoli f at mazzo.li writes:
At the end I gave up and I wrote the function myself:
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On 1/31/11 15:24 , Daniel Fischer wrote:
want. You could then also enable OverlappingInstances, which would allow
you to write other instances, but that extension is widely regarded as
dangerous (have to confess, I forgot what the dangers were,
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On 1/30/11 12:13 , JETkoten wrote:
;Default behaviour is to always
jump to the GHCi window.
;Jump back automatically unless errors.
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On 1/31/11 00:04 , Antoine Latter wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 27 January 2011 22:42, Henk-Jan van Tuyl hjgt...@chello.nl wrote:
Only four days until the old Haskell.org server
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On 1/27/11 10:26 , Stephen Tetley wrote:
John Peterson had some nice work using Haskore and Fran for elementary
teaching on the old Haskell.org website. Google's cache says the old
URL was here but its now vanished:
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On 1/27/11 10:28 , aditya siram wrote:
Haskell's immutability is good for mathematics but doing anything else
takes a great deal of up-front patience and perseverance, two very
rare qualities in that demographic if my own childhood is any
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On 1/30/11 00:24 , Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
Isn't there already a body of evidence that people who've never been exposed
to procedural languages find functional programming to be much more natural?
Also worth pointing out is that kids get
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On 1/29/11 21:27 , michael rice wrote:
I'm using the OpenGL stuff (GLFW). Same set of problems?
None of the lower level libraries support multithreading. If any of those
libraries use FFI bindings that run in a bound thread, they'll fail in the
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On 1/26/11 21:10 , Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
Hi,
Consider such a case: I'm making a client program. There is a
process, client and server exchange some information in a strict
order. So I do (persudo code):
exchange = do
sendHello
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On 1/26/11 22:00 , Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
This is one way. But so the outer function could not know what
happened in really wrong situation.
How so?
(1) fromException lets you test it: if (fromException e :: Maybe
ControlException) returns a
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On 1/26/11 22:13 , Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
Yes, the problem is that Exception cannot hold anything in it. Things
like Either might work. I am thinking how to make it work with
StateT
That wasn't my point, but sure it can. Go take a look
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On 1/19/11 17:43 , Evan Laforge wrote:
My preprocessor works well, but occasionally I do have to go in and
fix yet another odd corner that came up. Initially I thought I would
only simplistically replace tokens and avoid using a full syntax
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On 1/17/11 12:16 , Jeremy Shaw wrote:
The must be at least a million flash games, so clearly it can be used for
that. If you create a flash game, nobody gets excited. But if you create an
html5 based game, then people still get excited about that.
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On 1/15/11 18:15 , Warren Henning wrote:
MATLAB, LabVIEW, Fortran, Java, C, and non-OO C++/random subsets of
C++ rule scientific programming. Unit testing is rare and sporadic. In
dragging scientists halfway to something new, the exotic, powerful
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On 1/8/11 07:11 , Conor McBride wrote:
On 8 Jan 2011, at 11:14, Henning Thielemann wrote:
For me, the solutions of Dave Menendez make most sense: Generalize Maybe
to Foldable and List to MonadPlus.
What has it to do with monads? There's no bind
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On 1/3/11 18:21 , Eric wrote:
I would like to use freeglut instead of GLUT for my Haskell OpenGL program,
but when I place the freeglut dll in the program's directory and try to run
the program on Windows XP, I get the following error message:
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On 1/6/11 02:27 , Joe Bruce wrote:
Now I'm stuck on readline again [lambdabot build step 28 of 81]:
/Users/joe/.cabal/lib/readline-1.0.1.0/ghc-6.12.3/HSreadline-1.0.1.0.o:
unknown symbol `_rl_basic_quote_characters'
This sounds like the cabal
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On 1/7/11 14:14 , Alexander Kjeldaas wrote:
Ur looks very impressive, so the natural question I'm asking myself is: How
does it stack up against haskell frameworks, and why can't Ur be implemented
in Haskell?
I'm thinking mainly of the safety
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On 1/7/11 21:56 , Tony Morris wrote:
I am wondering if it possible to generalise catMaybes:
(Something f, SomethingElse t) = t (f a) - t a
I have being doing some gymnastics with Traversable and Foldable and a
couple of other things from
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On 1/2/11 02:48 , C K Kashyap wrote:
I found this site called http://vimgolf.com/ ... the idea there is
that people come up with challenges and try to come up with the least
number of keystrokes to get it done.
Code golf in any language is
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still catching up on inbox...
On 12/17/10 04:08 , Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
Just in case, I'm also attaching a PDF of the current version to this
email, but visiting the link is preferable, since I'll be updating the
contents.
So lessee, I need to
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On 12/29/10 22:05 , william murphy wrote:
I've spent a lot of time trying to write a version of concat, which
concatenates lists of any depth:
So:
concat'' [[[1,2],[3,4]],[[5]]] would return: [1,2,3,4,5]
You can't do that, at least
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On 12/15/10 02:36 , Roman Cheplyaka wrote:
Regarding the rationale, I'm not so sure and I'd like to hear an
explanation from someone competent. But I assume it has something
to do with the fact that if you supply a 'do' argument, you cannot
supply
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On 12/17/10 06:22 , Arnaud Bailly wrote:
Thanks for your answers. I am a little bit surprised, I thought
timestamps were on the milliseconds scale.
POSIX timestamps are seconds.
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On 12/13/10 09:15 , Jacek Generowicz wrote:
untilQuit' = (fmap (takeWhile (/= quit))) (sequence $ map (= report)
(repeat getLine))
-- The latter version shows the report, but it doesn't stop at the
-- appropriate place, so I'm guessing that I'm
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On 12/9/10 16:04 , Richard O'Keefe wrote:
I thought X is a mirror of Y meant X would be a read-only replica of Y,
with some sort of protocol between X and Y to keep X up to date.
As long as the material from Y replicated at X is *supposed* to be
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On 12/8/10 12:57 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
inherited a knackered L-gulonolactone oxidase enzyme.
L-gluconolactone oxidase maybe?
(pedants-R-us...)
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On 12/10/10 02:14 , Permjacov Evgeniy wrote:
Does haskell 2010 include binary IO? If no, what was the reason?
That's not really the language report's job. You're looking for the Haskell
Platform.
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On 12/9/10 02:01 , Tony Morris wrote:
I teach haskell quite a lot. I recommend using .ghci files in projects.
Today I received complaints about the fact that ghci will reject .ghci
if it is group-writeable. I didn't offer an opinion on the matter.
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On 12/9/10 20:40 , Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
First to notice that. So standard-wise, there is no way to do state thing?
There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what the language standard
covers. It is a bare minimum; practical libraries are
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On 12/8/10 02:17 , Anders Kaseorg wrote:
On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 13:42 -0500, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
We went over this some time back; the GHC runtime is wrong here, it
should only disable flags when running with geteuid() == 0.
No. +RTS
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On 12/7/10 08:07 , Ketil Malde wrote:
Dan Knapp dan...@gmail.com writes:
I agree that signed packages are a good idea. We should move with all
haste to implement them. But I'm not sure we want to hold up
everything else while we wait for that.
, in alt.sysadmin.recovery. I'm not sure how someone converted Brandon
S Allbery KF8NH into bf8 but that's the universal attribution.)
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On 12/7/10 06:00 , Henning Thielemann wrote:
Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
Since the base package is (with good reason) part of the compiler, anyone
smart enough to get that to work is smart enough to edit the cabal file.
There are good reasons
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On 12/7/10 18:53 , Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:04:04PM +0100, Ketil Malde wrote:
It's not obvious to me that adding a mirror makes the infrastructure
more more insecure. Any particular concerns? (I hope I qualify as
naïve
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On 12/6/10 13:22 , Antoine Latter wrote:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Tyler Pirtle tee...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Antoine Latter aslat...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Tyler Pirtle tee...@gmail.com
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On 12/5/10 02:41 , Florian Lengyel wrote:
Why is there even any consideration of some committee if someone wants to
mirror the Hackage site? Why not mirror the site?
Because it would be nice to have a mirror run by someone (a) accountable (b)
who
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On 12/4/10 21:35 , Jason Dagit wrote:
In that case, here you go:
http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/216043045.rss
http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/17788765.rss
You can get those by finding them on twitter and then clicking the
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On 12/5/10 12:34 , Daniel Peebles wrote:
Oh yeah, the 2.0 stuff that snobby techies love to hate :) hrrmpf back in my
day we programmed in binary using a magnetized needle on the exposed tape! I
don't need any of this newfangled bull.
I kid!
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On 12/5/10 15:07 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
you actually cannot do something as trivial as follow a conversation
You can, just not via the web site. I do it in Tweetdeck all the time.
That said, the important thing about Twitter is that it's
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On 12/5/10 17:05 , Henning Thielemann wrote:
Isn't it better to move the dependency on 'base' out of the If block? I
mean, someone might succeed to use GHC-7 with base-4.2 or GHC7 or a
different compiler with base-4.3.
Since the base package is
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On 11/24/10 20:59 , John D. Ramsdell wrote:
Due to a security concern, GHC 7.0.1 disables all runtime flags unless
a new flag is provided during linking. Since limiting memory usage is
so important, many developers will modify their cabal files to
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On 12/4/10 14:35 , Riad S. Wahby wrote:
Edward Z. Yang ezy...@mit.edu wrote:
There are many setuid binaries to non-root users, so getuid() != geteuid()
would probably make more sense, though I'm not 100% it has all the correct
security properties.
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On 11/28/10 08:47 , Florian Weimer wrote:
* Gregory Collins:
* Andrew Coppin:
Hypothesis: The fact that the average Haskeller thinks that this
kind of dense cryptic material is pretty garden-variety notation
possibly explains why normal people
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On 11/13/10 09:19 , Brent Yorgey wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:56:26PM -0800, Michael Litchard wrote:
a Perl perspective. I let him into what I was doing, and he opined I
should be using pcre. So now I'm second guessing my choices. Why do
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On 11/6/10 23:09 , wren ng thornton wrote:
On 11/6/10 6:20 AM, Reiner Pope wrote:
I was aware of this condition, but I'm not precisely sure it addresses
my requirements. When you run cabal install some-package, cabal
reads all version constraints
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On 11/8/10 04:52 , Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
I'm not sure how MacPorts does packaging, so you may require to
install a -dev or development version of glut to get the relevant
headers and library files.
MacPorts always builds from source, so
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On 11/11/10 11:12 , Simon Marlow wrote:
I bootstrapped GHC from the intermediate C files on a 640K PC around 1993 or
so. I don't remember exactly, but I think it might have worked, for some
small value of work.
If you used the right build
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On 11/3/10 21:30 , Maciej Piechotka wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 21:57 -0400, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On 10/29/10 09:35 , Dominique Devriese wrote:
* Only introduce a dependency from type class A to type class B if all
functions in type
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On 11/2/10 03:33 , Permjacov Evgeniy wrote:
Forth is quite easy to implement, but can it be used as extension
language? Wiki describes it as quite low level...
It's low level but rather easy to build up more complex stuff. It's never
been that
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On 10/29/10 09:35 , Dominique Devriese wrote:
* Only introduce a dependency from type class A to type class B if all
functions in type class B can be implemented in terms of the
functions in type class A or if type class A is empty.
Er? Eq a
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On 10/30/10 06:55 , Patrick Browne wrote:
-- Question 1
-- commutative com 1 3
-- This also gives true. Is it because of commutative equation or
because of the plus operation?
Haskell doesn't know about commutativity; you got true because (+)
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On 10/29/10 20:33 , C. McCann wrote:
I suggest U+2621.
Did you mean U+2620 SKULL AND CROSSBONES there?
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On 10/29/10 22:30 , wren ng thornton wrote:
On 10/29/10 8:33 PM, C. McCann wrote:
I suggest U+2621.
I'm not sure I'd've ever recognized a funny 'z' as caution sign... :)
You'd have to be a TeX / Metafont user to get that one. (The LaTeX book
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On 10/24/10 06:59 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
now I can't seem to find it. Instead, I had to navigate to the Unix download
page, download the source tarball, untar it (non-trivial under Windows), and
I thought WinZip added tar and tar.gz several years
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On 10/25/10 10:49 , Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On 10/24/10 06:59 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
now I can't seem to find it. Instead, I had to navigate to the Unix download
page, download the source tarball, untar it (non-trivial under Windows
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On 10/22/10 19:16 , Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Monday, October 18, 2010, 8:15:42 PM, you wrote:
If anyone is listening, I would very much like for there to be a
mechanism by which external functions can be called unsafe-ly, but
without blocking all
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On 10/23/10 10:00 , Mark Spezzano wrote:
What, exactly is happening here? I've compiled libiconv and put it under
/usr/bin (so iconv is there). Yet it still complains...I don't get it. I've
spend the best part of a day mucking around with this to
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On 10/18/10 21:37 , Evan Laforge wrote:
For instance, currently I have the top consumer of both time and alloc
as 'get', which is 'lift . Monad.State.Strict.get'. Of course it
occurs in a million places in the complete profile, along with
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On 10/19/10 13:09 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
On 18/10/2010 09:59 PM, Magnus Therning wrote:
On 18/10/10 21:56, Andrew Coppin wrote:
...I thought *I* was the only person who's ever heard of Rexx?
Every amiga user is very likely to have heard of rexx,
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On 10/18/10 01:18 , Nathan Howell wrote:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
allb...@ece.cmu.edu wrote:
I thought Windows already had a system message for something like that. Or
at least it used to, although I can see why
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On 10/16/10 05:35 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
GC languages are not exactly rare, so maybe we'll see some OSes start adding
new system calls to allow the OS to ask the application whether there's any
memory it can cheaply hand back. We'll see...
I
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On 10/16/10 12:07 , Ketil Malde wrote:
Brandon S Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu writes:
Linux users don't have easy binary installers, usually. What can we do
about this bootstrapping problem?
I thought the answer to that was supposed
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On 10/15/10 11:26 , Don Stewart wrote:
Linux users don't have easy binary installers, usually. What can we do
about this bootstrapping problem?
I thought the answer to that was supposed to be bug your distribution to
package the Platform.
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On 10/15/10 16:28 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
I'm surprised about the profiler. They seem really, really impressed with
it. Which is interesting to me, since I can never seen to get anything
sensible out of it. It always seems to claim that my program
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On 10/15/10 16:36 , Andrew Coppin wrote:
Does anybody have any idea which particular dialect of pure math this paper
is speaking? (And where I can go read about it...)
Type theory. It makes my head spin, too, since essentially my only exposure
to
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On 10/13/10 06:07 , Henning Thielemann wrote:
Ben Franksen schrieb:
I wanted to create a clone of an existing program that had no help option
and instead gave the help output if it saw an invalid option.
I find it very annoying if a program
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On 10/13/10 13:48 , Jason Dagit wrote:
Isn't debian etch a security liability at this point?
Never underestimate the inertia of a system which a professor uses for
research or a grad student for their thesis work.
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On 10/11/10 04:06 , Sittampalam, Ganesh wrote:
While I agree with the potential benefits, I also worry that you will
end up making something that is far less well tested in practice. For
widely used and fairly low-level libraries like gnutls,
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On 10/11/10 04:41 , Brandon Moore wrote:
particular about cryptographic primitives. Some side channel attacks seem to
call for a very low-level language, to make it easier to verify that e.g.
execution time and the memory access pattern does not
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On 10/11/10 03:37 , Michael Snoyman wrote:
verified users will be displayed here. I'm also considering adding a
new status as well: real picture, so that only people with real images
(not cartoons, not identicons) can show up on the homepage. I
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On 10/10/10 21:22 , Tim Matthews wrote:
seems crazy. I don't know how that works and whether having that status
absent means a haskeller is 'fake'/'imaginary' etc but I can't see how
anyone would like to be labeled '¬real' or 'not real'.
I'll
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On 10/9/10 09:17 , Malcolm Wallace wrote:
On 8 Oct 2010, at 16:56, Donn Cave wrote:
wikipedia: Managed code is a differentiation coined by Microsoft to
identify computer program code that requires and will only execute
under the
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On 10/9/10 10:25 , Kevin Jardine wrote:
instance Show a = Monoidable a [String] where
toMonoid a = [show a]
main = putStrLn $ unwrap $ polyToMonoid [] True () (Just (5::Int))
fails to compile.
Why would that be? My understanding is that
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On 10/9/10 08:30 , Christopher Done wrote:
Every Darcs repository I've pulled this year has always showed me this
message:
***
Fetching a hashed repository would be
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On 10/7/10 04:02 , Christian Sternagel wrote:
However, I do know that there are many publications about ordered
structures which use the word ordering (most of which I'm aware of, not
by native speakers).
Like most things in Haskell, it's named
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On 10/5/10 10:52 , C K Kashyap wrote:
And I had built up this impression that laziness distinguished Haskell
by a huge margin ... but it seems that is not the case.
Hence the disappointment.
Haskell is lazy-by-default and designed around lazy
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On 10/5/10 12:38 , Henning Thielemann wrote:
In order to be consistent with current case, maybe in layout mode:
\1 - f
2 - g
and in non-layout mode
\{1 - f; 2 - g}
+1; likewise for consistency it should support guards (which would
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On 10/2/10 15:27 , Jan Christiansen wrote:
You can use a similar approach for case expressions ; )
There are several better (that is, not using unsafePerformIO) versions at
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Case .
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brandon s. allbery
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On 9/27/10 17:07 , Max Rabkin wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:57, Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com
wrote:
data Foo a b =
Fooa |
Bar b |
Foobar a b
deriving (Eq, Ord)
Also, either your pipes don't
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On 9/25/10 11:06 , Donn Cave wrote:
Though it's common practice for sure, maybe universal, does the
Don't insert a space after a lambda rule make sense?
I found it confusing at first sight, because of course it looks
More to the point, some
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On 9/19/10 20:12 , Jason Dagit wrote:
There may be someway to do a google search that is restricted to just
haskell-cafe archives but I'm not sure what the correct search syntax
would be. Something about in-url and then the url of the archives.
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On 9/17/10 05:27 , Neil Davies wrote:
Why not use kerberos?
We find it works for us, integrates with web (natively or via WebAuth),
remote command execution (remctl) and ssh - widely used, scales brilliantly.
1. Kerberos is only authentication.
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On 9/17/10 17:43 , Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On 9/17/10 05:27 , Neil Davies wrote:
Why not use kerberos?
Mind, we use Kerberos heavily around here... but we have the infrastructure
that uses it. Web application space is *not* something
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