[Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Hi all, from the names of people on the list it seems that all users here are males. Just out of curiosity are there any female users here, or are we guys only at the moment? Günther ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://ww

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Why? Are you going to make dirty jokes or something :) Nevertheless, I guess you're right. There are very few females in most of the CS topics, and haskell is no different. I know at least 1 (one!) female who implemented software using haskell for her phd thesis, though. Cheers! 2010/3/27 Günthe

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: "Günther Schmidt" Gesendet: 27.03.2010 16:14:57 An: haskell-cafe@haskell.org Betreff: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers? >Hi all, > >from the names of people on the list it seems that all users here are males. > >Just o

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Ozgur Akgun wrote: Nevertheless, I guess you're right. There are very few females in most of the CS topics, and haskell is no different. This is my experience too. Although note that apparently the world's very first computer programmer was apparently a woman... _

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I worked with a female student on a Haskell project last summer :) She's not into being member of a mailing list or a user group but she exists. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote: > Ozgur Akgun wrote: >> >> Nevertheless, I guess you're right. There are very few females in most

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Maybe not on the list, but there certainly are in academia. I can think of several off the top of my head. 2010/3/27 Günther Schmidt : > Hi all, > > from the names of people on the list it seems that all users here are males. > > Just out of curiosity are there any female users here, or are we guy

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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Daniel Fischer wrote: > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: "Günther Schmidt" > Gesendet: 27.03.2010 16:14:57 > An: haskell-cafe@haskell.org > Betreff: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers? > > >Hi all, > >

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iche Nachricht- >> Von: "Günther Schmidt" >> Gesendet: 27.03.2010 16:14:57 >> An: haskell-cafe@haskell.org >> Betreff: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers? >> >> >Hi all, >> > >> >from the names of people on the

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper A heck of a lady. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote: > Ozgur Akgun wrote: > >> Nevertheless, I guess you're right. There are very few females in most of >> the CS topics, and haskell is no d

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2010/03/27 Alberto G. Corona : > To say this in scientific headline jargon, it's a matter of > division of work, time, and dimorphic fixation of abilities in > the brain by natural selection trough dimorphic development of > the brain of men and women by different genetic sequences. I > don't know

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

So the first computer nerd was a women??!!! ;-) ;-) ;-) On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:06 PM, John Van Enk wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper > A heck of a lady. > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Coppin > wrote: >> >> Ozgur Akgun wrote: >>> >>> Nevertheless, I guess you

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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Peter Verswyvelen wrote: > So the first computer nerd was a women??!!! ;-) ;-) ;-) Yeah, and she was so attractive that the entire male gender spent the next 50 years trying to impress her. Luke > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:06 PM, John Van Enk wrote: >> http

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2010/3/27 Jason Dusek > 2010/03/27 Alberto G. Corona : > > To say this in scientific headline jargon, it's a matter of > > division of work, time, and dimorphic fixation of abilities in > > the brain by natural selection trough dimorphic development of > > the brain of men and women by different

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My friend named her cat Haskell after the language :) John -- John Meacham - ⑆repetae.net⑆john⑈ - http://notanumber.net/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

I bet there are some people here who think women are very idiot to be knowledgeable about haskell. Cheers ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

If you are looking for a real first - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace - she is even credited with writing the first algorithm for machine execution. On 27 Mar 2010, at 20:06, John Van Enk wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper A heck of a lady. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Alberto G. Corona wrote: because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for survival. Tools engineering and mastering is. I don't see the difference. Being able to use a lever, wheel, pulley, fire,... is obviously helpful for survival. But "intellectual tools" like mathematics, logic, an

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wren ng thornton wrote: Alberto G. Corona wrote: because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for survival. Tools engineering and mastering is. I don't see the difference. (That is, the difference between CS and mathematics. Conversely, I don't see the similarity between physical to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: > For some reason it started out as a male dominated field.  Let's assume > for cultural reasons.  Once it became a male dominated field, us males > unknowingly made the work and learning environments somewhat hostile > or unattractive to women.

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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 23:09, Leon Smith wrote: > I've heard rumors that in the early days of > programming, that women were in the majority, or at least they > represented a much greater proportion of programmers than they do now. > They're not just rumors: http://www.witi.com/center/witimuseu

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2010/03/27 Leon Smith : > I've heard rumors that in the early days of programming, that > women were in the majority, or at least they represented a > much greater proportion of programmers than they do now. I > seem to recall that this started to change sometime in the > 60s. Of course, I can't re

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

Many of you may be interested in reading the Geek Feminism blog and wiki: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Geek_Feminism_Wiki http://geekfeminism.org/ It's not necessary to agree with everything, or to debate it, just try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Friendly, --Lane

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

One study suggests that the perceived work environment is too geeky: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34437233/ns/technology_and_science-science/ I also suspect that much Haskell promotion is targeted towards male oriented sites, which does not help things: http://www.quantcast.com/slashdot.org http:

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On Mar 28, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Luke Palmer wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Peter Verswyvelen wrote: So the first computer nerd was a women??!!! ;-) ;-) ;-) Yeah, and she was so attractive that the entire male gender spent the next 50 years trying to impress her. Augusta Ada Kin

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Alberto G. Corona wrote: > The reasons for the sexual differences in mathematical abilities are > different, because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for > survival. Tools engineering and mastering is. If this is politically > incorrect I beg you pardon, but this is my honest theory ab

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Jochem Berndsen writes: > Could you point us to any evidence that supports your assumption that > there are "sexual differences in mathematical abilities"? Luce Irigaray? (Amply butcherd by Sokal and Bricmont, or see e.g. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Luce_Irigaray) This is as dumb

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ded that way, early on. On 27 March 2010 18:56, Jason Dagit wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Daniel Fischer > wrote: > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: "Günther Schmidt" >> Gesendet: 27.03.2010 16:14:57 >> An: hask

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> IQ tests, for example. google it. > > 2010/3/28 Jochem Berndsen > > Alberto G. Corona wrote: >> > The reasons for the sexual differences in mathematical abilities are >> > different, because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for >> > survival. Tools engineering and mastering is. If th

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>From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_intelligence In a 2008 study[19] paid for by the National Science Foundation in the United States, researchers found that "girls perform as well as boys on standardized math tests. Although 20 years ago, high school boys performed better than gi

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2010/3/27 wren ng thornton > Alberto G. Corona wrote: > >> because math abilities are not a -primary- reason for survival. >> Tools engineering and mastering is. >> > > Do not be misled by the fact that CS departments are often lumped in with > engineering. For that matter, do not be misled by

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

The Wisconsin study, which was done in the 1980s and then redone last year is the primary source for that, and it presents data that there is no real difference between women and men in math ability. The only *statistically* significant (bold because significant is a technical term, not a term den

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there any female Haskellers?

math is not a single hability. topology is not the same than algebra. multiply two numbers or solving an integral by means of a known algoritm has nothing in common with finding the solution to a mathematical problem that is unknown forr the person. Spatial reasoning is not the same than appliying

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2010/03/29 Alberto G. Corona : > [...] What we evolved with is a general hability: to play with > things to achieve what we need from them, (besides other > abilities). The pleasure to acheve ends by using available > means. [...]  A tool is someting used to solve a class of > problems. It does not

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2010/03/29 Jason Dusek : > What are you attributing to men... s/are you/you are/ -- Jason Dusek ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

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This is still alive? Haskell is clearly no longer the topic here, it should be moved elsewhere imo. JC Petkovich On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jason Dusek wrote: > 2010/03/29 Jason Dusek : >> What are you attributing to men... > >   s/are you/you are/ > > -- > Jason Dusek > _

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On Mar 30, 2010, at 4:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Taming a horse is good for survival, but we do not evolved for taming horses (this is only done a few milennia ago). Learning to driving a car is now good for survival, but we don´t evolved for that. even the invention of the arrow and t

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On 30/03/2010, at 9:01 AM, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > There is some evidence that arrows may go back 60,000 years, > which is time enough for some evolutionary effect. IIRC, Hughes defined arrows last millenium, which makes them no more than 1000 years old. I certainly find that I have no innate

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. 2010/3/29 Jason Dusek 2010/03/29 Alberto G. Corona : > > [...] What we evolved with is a general hability: to play with > > things to achieve what we need from them, (besides other > > abilities). The pleasure to acheve ends by using available > > means. [...] A tool is someting used to solve

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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > . > > 2010/3/29 Jason Dusek > > 2010/03/29 Alberto G. Corona : >> > [...] What we evolved with is a general hability: to play with >> > things to achieve what we need from them, (besides other >> > abilities). The pleasure to acheve