Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-18 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Sean Leather writes: > Personally, I prefer to separate the name of the language from the name of > the development tools, because I think that causes unnecessary confusion. > End-users do not need to care about Haskell, unlike Java since they need the > JRE, so potential developers and students a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-18 Thread Sean Leather
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:46, Don Stewart wrote: > leather: > > > > 2. What is the difference between "Haskell" and the "Haskell Platform"? I > see > > one or the other in various places. To get from www.haskell.org to > downloading > > the Mac software, I go through "Download Haskell," "Get the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-17 Thread Don Stewart
leather: > > 2. What is the difference between "Haskell" and the "Haskell Platform"? I see > one or the other in various places. To get from www.haskell.org to downloading > the Mac software, I go through "Download Haskell," "Get the Haskell Platform > > Mac," and "Download Haskell for Mac OS X (i

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Don Stewart
greg: > Jason Dagit writes: > > > If I understand correctly, the issue at hand is that the uninstaller > > step is removing previous libraries and ghc? > > Not GHC; the HP installer removes old copies of the platform > libraries. That's likely to break your old GHC setup though. What should > it

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Gregory Collins
Jason Dagit writes: > If I understand correctly, the issue at hand is that the uninstaller > step is removing previous libraries and ghc? Not GHC; the HP installer removes old copies of the platform libraries. That's likely to break your old GHC setup though. What should it do instead? G -- Gr

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Ketil Malde
Ivan Miljenovic writes: > Which packages are these? I don't recall seeing any with this kind of > "maintainer" address... http://www.google.no/search?q=site%3Ahackage.haskell.org+maintainer+libraries%40haskell.org -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 8, 2010, at 02:47 , Ivan Miljenovic wrote: On 8 April 2010 16:29, Ketil Malde wrote: Support, in the sense that somebody is actually responsible for the package? (Unlike Hackage, where some packages have a closed-for-nonsubscribers mailing list as 'maintainer'.) Which packages are the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 16:29, Ketil Malde wrote: > Support, in the sense that somebody is actually responsible for the > package?  (Unlike Hackage, where some packages have a > closed-for-nonsubscribers mailing list as 'maintainer'.) Which packages are these? I don't recall seeing any with this kind of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ketil Malde
Daniel Fischer writes: > However, I wanted to know what the etc stood for, with taking care of > dependencies and uninstalling already mentioned. Upgrading, yes, but what > else? Keeping the system consistent with other systems? If I use the system packages, I can have a higher confidence tha

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Malcolm Wallace < malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk> wrote: > The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform > editions before it installs itself. > >>> I would consider that a serious bug. >>> >> >> "Lacking a feature I would consider esse

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 10:41, Daniel Fischer wrote: > However, I wanted to know what the etc stood for, with taking care of > dependencies and uninstalling already mentioned. Upgrading, yes, but what > else? Patching, bug fixing, stuff like that. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com Ivan

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 01:47:19 schrieb Ivan Miljenovic: > On 8 April 2010 08:25, Daniel Fischer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: > >> etc. ... > > > > Such as? > > To avoid stating these all over again: > http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2010/

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 08:25, Daniel Fischer wrote: > Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: >> etc. ... > > Such as? To avoid stating these all over again: http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/repeat-after-me-cabal-is-not-a-package-manager/ (specifically the secti

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Gregory Collins
Malcolm Wallace writes: > The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform > editions before it installs itself. >>> >>> I would consider that a serious bug. >> >> "Lacking a feature I would consider essential" /= "a bug" in my opinion, >> especially when the desirability

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: > Daniel Fischer writes: > > I currently have 6.10.1, 6.10.3 and 6.12.1 installed (openSuSe 11.1), > > no problem. > > On my previous computer (SuSE 8.2), I had every release from 6.2.2 to > > 6.8.2, no problem either. > > Using s

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Daniel Fischer writes: > I currently have 6.10.1, 6.10.3 and 6.12.1 installed (openSuSe 11.1), no > problem. > On my previous computer (SuSE 8.2), I had every release from 6.2.2 to > 6.8.2, no problem either. Using system packages? > Ah, but one shouldn't use a package manager for Haskell pack

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Malcolm Wallace
The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. "Lacking a feature I would consider essential" /= "a bug" in my opinion, especially when the desirability of the feature is in question. It is not mer

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Mittwoch 07 April 2010 23:43:05 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: > Malcolm Wallace writes: > > The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it > > would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. > > As far as I know, most Linux distributions only let you i

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Malcolm Wallace writes: > The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it > would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. As far as I know, most Linux distributions only let you install one version of GHC at a time; we do this with Gentoo because despite

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Gregory Collins
Malcolm Wallace writes: >>>The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform >>>editions before it installs itself. > > I would consider that a serious bug. "Lacking a feature I would consider essential" /= "a bug" in my opinion, especially when the desirability of the featur

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Malcolm Wallace
The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. If you are a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Gregory Collins
Sean Leather writes: > Too bad the installer > still doesn't work -- I'm working on it everyone, but the Mac installer > system is incredibly crufty and broken, and Snow Leopard broke a lot of > stuff for me. > > Is it possible to build the installer on a Leopard system/virtual >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Sean Leather
Hi Gregory, Thanks for the reply. Gregory Collins wrote: > Sean Leather writes: > > > 4. The current link for the Mac image points to > > > http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/2010.1.0.0/haskell-platform-2010.1.0.1-i386.dmg > > . Note the inconsistency between the version in the directory and fi

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Gregory Collins
Sean Leather writes: > 4. The current link for the Mac image points to > http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/2010.1.0.0/haskell-platform-2010.1.0.1-i386.dmg > . Note the inconsistency between the version in the directory and file > names. You can think of that one as the second edition of the 20

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Don Stewart
leather: > 1. Why can't the platform download site be hosted on www.haskell.org instead > of > hackage.haskell.org? I see that there's a redirect, but (imho) it would be > ideal to have www.haskell.org/platform be the standard URL in my browser. It > is > easier to remember (for typing) and more

[Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Sean Leather
1. Why can't the platform download site be hosted on www.haskell.org instead of hackage.haskell.org? I see that there's a redirect, but (imho) it would be ideal to have www.haskell.org/platform be the standard URL in my browser. It is easier to remember (for typing) and more obvious (for appearance