Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread Chris Dornan
From: John Goerzen [mailto:jgoer...@complete.org] Sent: 23 February 2011 19:34 To: Chris Dornan Cc: 'Haskell Cafe'; 'Gershom Bazerman' Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help On 02/23/2011 11:57 AM, Chris Dornan wrote: > Thanks John, >

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On 02/23/2011 11:57 AM, Chris Dornan wrote: Thanks John, I think this is a valuable discussion. The compromise you propose wouldn’t address the main point – the fear and aversion of using (L)GPL IP in proprietary IP. Is that fear well-grounded or not? If not, then people should be educated.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread Chris Dornan
27;Haskell Cafe'; 'Gershom Bazerman' Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help On 02/23/2011 05:48 AM, Chris Dornan wrote: > The simple answer is that I need to be able to use HDBC in proprietary > products and the LGPL makes this awkward - the most seri

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On 02/23/2011 05:48 AM, Chris Dornan wrote: The simple answer is that I need to be able to use HDBC in proprietary products and the LGPL makes this awkward – the most serious issue being that owners of the code base don’t want GNU licensed parts being linked into their code base. Packaging and de

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
On 02/23/2011 10:03 AM, Leon Smith wrote: My biggest (mostly) fixable complaint with HDBC is that it hasn't turned out to be a very complete or robust solution for accessing databases that like to use PostgreSQL-specific features. My biggest This is probably true, both that it isn't designed

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread Leon Smith
This seems a timely email, as I've been submitting a steady-ish trickle of patches to HDBC-postgresql lately. Honestly, I'm rather dissatisfied with HDBC in many respects, but I don't have a very good idea of what a (low-level) database access library for Haskell *should* be, and I've found

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-23 Thread Chris Dornan
goer...@complete.org] Sent: 22 February 2011 19:55 To: Chris Dornan Cc: Haskell Cafe; Gershom Bazerman Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help On 02/22/2011 01:33 PM, Chris Dornan wrote: > Hi John, > > Two thoughts: is there any prospect of making HDBC av

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-22 Thread John Goerzen
On 02/22/2011 01:33 PM, Chris Dornan wrote: Hi John, Two thoughts: is there any prospect of making HDBC available under a BSD-like license? The LGPL license is a significant barrier for me and I expect it will be for others. I'm happy to discuss this with people. It would be helpful to under

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Dornan
Hi John, Two thoughts: is there any prospect of making HDBC available under a BSD-like license? The LGPL license is a significant barrier for me and I expect it will be for others. And, along the lines of your own comments, the ODBC interface raises a significant (technical) barrier for MySQL use

[Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help

2011-02-22 Thread John Goerzen
Hi folks, HDBC has been out there for quite some time now. I wrote it initially to meet some specific needs, and from that perspective, it has been done for awhile. It is clear, however, that there are some needs it doesn't meet. Most of them relate to specific backend driver items. I'd l