2009/12/4 Roman Salmin :
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 01:43:42PM +, Matthias Görgens wrote:
>> > _So my strong opinion that solution is only DSL not EDSL_
>>
>> Why do you think they will learn your DSL, if they don't learn any
>> other language?
> I didn't said that they didn't learn any langua
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 01:43:42PM +, Matthias Görgens wrote:
> > _So my strong opinion that solution is only DSL not EDSL_
>
> Why do you think they will learn your DSL, if they don't learn any
> other language?
I didn't said that they didn't learn any language. They learn languages,
but
on
> _So my strong opinion that solution is only DSL not EDSL_
Why do you think they will learn your DSL, if they don't learn any
other language? And if your DSL includes general purpose stuff, like
functions, control structures, data structures, you'll re-invent the
wheel. Probably porly.
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Don Stewart wrote:
>
>
> http://www.galois.com/blog/2009/10/13/domain-specific-languages-for-domain-specific-problems/
>
> It advocates for Haskell + EDSLs, much as we have been discussing in
> this thread.
>
I am think that use of EDSLs for Physics (and similar
Of all the projects that are in the HackageDB, how many, or what % do you
say developed an EDSL?
daryoush
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote:
> Don Stewart writes:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Following up on this, I'm presenting a position paper tomorrow on the
> > use of EDSLs to
Don Stewart writes:
> Hey all,
>
> Following up on this, I'm presenting a position paper tomorrow on the
> use of EDSLs to improve productivity and lower cost when developing code
> for new high performance architectures (like GPUs).
>
>
> http://www.galois.com/blog/2009/10/13/domain-specifi
Hey all,
Following up on this, I'm presenting a position paper tomorrow on the
use of EDSLs to improve productivity and lower cost when developing code
for new high performance architectures (like GPUs).
http://www.galois.com/blog/2009/10/13/domain-specific-languages-for-domain-specific-prob
dons:
> And note we are pushing precisely on the use of DSLs in or on Haskell
> for *portability* of the domain-scientists code in a number of areas
> right now:
>
> * data parallel algorithms (targetting cpu , gpu)
> Accelerate:
> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/acceler
And note we are pushing precisely on the use of DSLs in or on Haskell
for *portability* of the domain-scientists code in a number of areas
right now:
* data parallel algorithms (targetting cpu , gpu)
Accelerate:
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/accelerate-0.6.0.0
Yesterday I was at a talk by Pat Hanrahan on embedded DSLs and GPUs at
the nvidia GPU conference:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpu_technology_conference.html
Pat argued that the only way forward to achieve usable computing power
for physics on heterogeneous computers (eg. multicore+GPU) is through
В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 23:42:57 Casey Hawthorne написал:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:24:11 +0200, you wrote:
> >I?m a physicist, so I think they would be attracted by something like
> >
> >Haskell: high level physics modelling at Fortran speeds
> >
> >Haskell: mathematics beyond numerical c
Hi Edgar
No-one seems to have pointed you to the Maestro:
http://users.info.unicaen.fr/~karczma/arpap/
The quantum mechanics one might be the most directly useful, but they
are all great reads:
http://users.info.unicaen.fr/~karczma/arpap/hasiqm.pdf
Best wishes
Stephen
2009/9/30 :
> Hi,
>
> I
"Haskell for closing the gap between specification and code"
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:42 PM, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
> attract physicists. Anyone has som
I can't help with the title, but you might show how Haskell can help
avoid the subtle bugs that create erroneous results. Start with the
dimensional library (http://hackage.haskell.org/package/dimensional).
Paul.
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On Wed, 30/Sep/2009 at 22:21 +0400, Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
> В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> > Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
> >
On Wed, 30/Sep/2009 at 22:21 +0400, Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
> В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> > Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
> >
On Wed, 30/Sep/2009 at 22:27 +0200, Max Rabkin wrote:
> I am *not* a physicist, but I imagine many physicists know at least
> something of functional analysis, algebra, Lie algebras, etc.
>
> However, when physicists write programs (this is my inference from the
> widespread use of Fortran and the
Good ones! Specially the second, since I will show a real example where
I used Haskell to model a boson condensate. Thanks for the suggestions.
Edgar
On Wed, 30/Sep/2009 at 10:52 -0700, Ted Nyman wrote:
> Some ideas of highly variable quality:
>
> Getting Functional with Physics
> Bosons, Fermio
I am *not* a physicist, but I imagine many physicists know at least
something of functional analysis, algebra, Lie algebras, etc.
However, when physicists write programs (this is my inference from the
widespread use of Fortran and the computational assignments given to
undergraduate students) they
Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
В сообщении от Среда 30 сентября 2009 23:08:02 вы написали:
Yep, sure did. I just hit `reply' assuming haskell-cafe was in the
reply-to. I do that more often than not it seems.
Going back to the OP, what area of physics, and how on earth are you
going to convert year
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:24:11 +0200, you wrote:
>I?m a physicist, so I think they would be attracted by something like
>Haskell: high level physics modelling at Fortran speeds
>
>Haskell: mathematics beyond numerical calculus
>
And,
easier to make use of multi-core machines than threaded Fortr
В сообщении от Среда 30 сентября 2009 23:29:32 Max Rabkin написал:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Alberto G. Corona
wrote:
> > Haskell: mathematics beyond numerical calculus
>
> I'd imagine most physicists know a fair bit of mathematics beyond
> numerical calculus; what they might not know m
В сообщении от Среда 30 сентября 2009 23:08:02 вы написали:
> Yep, sure did. I just hit `reply' assuming haskell-cafe was in the
> reply-to. I do that more often than not it seems.
> Going back to the OP, what area of physics, and how on earth are you
> going to convert years of fortran users to
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> Haskell: mathematics beyond numerical calculus
I'd imagine most physicists know a fair bit of mathematics beyond
numerical calculus; what they might not know much about is
*computation* beyond numerical calculus.
--Max
_
I´m a physicist, so I think they would be attracted by something like
Haskell: high level physics modelling at Fortran speeds
Haskell: mathematics beyond numerical calculus
2009/9/30
Hi,
>
> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> Brazil) university and they a
Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
В сообщении от Среда 30 сентября 2009 22:25:14 вы написали:
Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
Hi,
I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
Brazil) university and they
reminds me of a well-known story, told to me some years back at cornell:
richard feynman was set to deliver a series of lectures in brazil, and he
spent a good deal of time learning spanish in preparation; that was until a
visting professor from brazil told him he might want to try portuguese
inste
В сообщении от Среда 30 сентября 2009 22:37:52 вы написали:
> Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
> > В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> >> Brazil) university and they asked me for a goo
Khudyakov Alexey wrote:
> В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
>> Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
>> attract physicists. Anyone has some sugg
В сообщении от 30 сентября 2009 21:42:57 ed...@ymonad.com написал:
> Hi,
>
> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
> attract physicists. Anyone has some suggestions? (Will be a seminar ab
Some ideas of highly variable quality:
Getting Functional with Physics
Bosons, Fermions, and Monads? Haskell for Physicists
Purer Programming for Physicists
Use Haskell for Physics, and Say 'C'-You-Later
- ted
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will give a seminar to physicis
Hallo,
On 9/30/09, ed...@ymonad.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo,
> Brazil) university and they asked me for a good title, something that can
> attract physicists. Anyone has some suggestions? (Will be
> a seminar about the use of Hask
Hi,
I will give a seminar to physicists at USP (Universidade de São Paulo, Brazil)
university and they asked me for a good title, something that can attract
physicists. Anyone has some suggestions? (Will be
a seminar about the use of Haskell to substitute C or Fortran
in a lot of tasks, and how
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