[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 14. Oktober 2005 16:25 schrieben Sie: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I always couldn't understand why one has to write regular > > expressions as strings > > Because the language used inside these strings is standard, > mu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Malcolm Wallace
Ketil Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard > >> Prelude. > > > I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in > > the language itself and decouple librar

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 14. Oktober 2005 16:26 schrieben Sie: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, > Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > a message of 23 lines which said: > > alpha = ('A' `to` 'Z') ||| ('a' `to` 'z') > > If you intend to seriously specify a new language for regexps, ple

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Cale Gibbard
On 15/10/05, Ketil Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard > >> Prelude. > > > I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in > > the language itself and decoup

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Ketil Malde
David Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard >> Prelude. > I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in > the language itself and decouple library standardization from the > definition of the language

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread John Meacham
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote: > On 2005-10-14 at 16:25+0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, > > Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > a message of 23 lines which said: > > > > > By the way, it should be possible

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread David Roundy
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 07:15:11PM +, Aaron Denney wrote: > On 2005-10-13, Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, > > Robin Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > a message of 22 lines which said: > >> ... and, in the case of the Standard Pr

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Aaron Denney
On 2005-10-13, Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, > Robin Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 22 lines which said: > >> ... and, in the case of the Standard Prelude section, or equivalent, >> a specification of well-understood fu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Niklas Broberg
> > Regexps and XML are, IMHO, also "must haves". > > By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an > Haskell-like way. Harp? :-) http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~d00nibro/harp /Niklas ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskel

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Jon Fairbairn
On 2005-10-14 at 16:56+0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, > Jon Fairbairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Because the language used inside these strings is standard, > > > multi-language, widely used and documented? > > > > 10,000 lemmings can't be wro

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 37 lines which said: > > Because the language used inside these strings is standard, > > multi-language, widely used and documented? > > 10,000 lemmings can't be wrong? Right, disregard ASCII and sp

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Jon Fairbairn
On 2005-10-14 at 16:25+0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, > Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 23 lines which said: > > > By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in > > an Haskell-like way. > > If you like

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. If you like so, but as one more possi

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: > alpha = ('A' `to` 'Z') ||| ('a' `to` 'z') If you intend to seriously specify a new language for regexps, please consider Unicode. There are more letters than A to Z...

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: > By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in > an Haskell-like way. If you like so, but as one more possibility, not as the only way. > I always could

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2005 13:39 schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer: > [...] > Regexps and XML are, IMHO, also "must haves". By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. I always couldn't understand why one has to write regular expressions as strings wh

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Bayley, Alistair
> From: Marco Tulio Gontijo e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Em Qui, 2005-10-13 às 09:47 +0100, Bayley, Alistair escreveu: > > * > Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message blah blah blah > > Is this kind of

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Marco Tulio Gontijo e Silva
Em Qui, 2005-10-13 às 09:47 +0100, Bayley, Alistair escreveu: > - > * > Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any > attachments, may contain confidential and/or

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Stephane, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:24:30 AM, you wrote: SB> As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, SB> I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new SB> standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means SB> more debu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Donn Cave
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: ... > As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, > I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new > standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means > more debugging and more documentat

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, Robin Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 22 lines which said: > ... and, in the case of the Standard Prelude section, or equivalent, > a specification of well-understood functions that the spec authors > agree "should" be provided in all imple

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Cale Gibbard
Well, what we already have is a lot of language extensions with varying degrees of support across implementations. GHC is somewhat of a standard in and of itself, and one thing that standardisation efforts bring is a record of what exactly GHC is doing, thus allowing for more and better implementat

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Bayley, Alistair
> From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, > I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new > standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means > more debugging and more docu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Mitchell
> As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, > I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new > standard. Maybe you just don't realise how much we do need a new standard! > standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which > means more deb

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:39:34PM -0700, Isaac Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 30 lines which said: > One of the main topics was the perceived need of a new standard, As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, I would like to express a personal opinion;