Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-09 Thread Isaac Dupree
Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: Yitzchak Gale wrote: Perhaps Coverity's interest could be piqued if they were made aware of Haskell's emergence as an important platform in security-sensitive industries such as finance and chip design, and of the significant influence that Haskell is having on the desig

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-09 Thread Bryan O'Sullivan
Yitzchak Gale wrote: > Perhaps Coverity's interest could be > piqued if they were made aware of Haskell's emergence > as an important platform in security-sensitive > industries such as finance and chip design, and of > the significant influence that Haskell is having on the > design of all other

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-09 Thread Yitzchak Gale
Galchin Vasili wrote on Friday, January 4: >> I stumbled across this page. It seems that Haskell and other >> strongly typed functional languages like Ml/OCaml will fare much, >> much better, e.g. buffer overrun. Thoughts . comments. Bulat Ziganshin wrote: > for me, it looks like saying that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Sonntag, 6. Januar 2008 15:18 schrieb Andrew Coppin: > Daniel Fischer wrote: > > Just because I don't know: > > what bugs would be possible in a language having only the instruction > > return () > > Bug #1: You cannot write any nontrivial programs. ;-) > That's not a bug, that's a feature.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Coppin
Daniel Fischer wrote: Just because I don't know: what bugs would be possible in a language having only the instruction return () Bug #1: You cannot write any nontrivial programs. ;-) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Coppin
Mads Lindstrøm wrote: Hi, Andrew Coppin wrote: Human kind has yet to design a programming language which eliminates all possible bugs. ;-) And we never will. Quite so. How can a machine possibly tell whether a given behaviour is a "bug" or an "intended behaviour"? This is impossible

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Sonntag, 6. Januar 2008 14:27 schrieb Mads Lindstrøm: > Hi, > > Andrew Coppin wrote: > > Galchin Vasili wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > https://buildsecurityin.us-cert.gov/daisy/bsi/articles/knowledge/coding > > >/295.html > > > > > > I stumbled across this page. It seems that Haskell and other

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Mads Lindstrøm
Hi, Andrew Coppin wrote: > Galchin Vasili wrote: > > Hello, > > > > https://buildsecurityin.us-cert.gov/daisy/bsi/articles/knowledge/coding/295.html > > > > I stumbled across this page. It seems that Haskell and other strongly > > typed functional languages like Ml/OCaml will fare much, much

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Coppin
Galchin Vasili wrote: Hello, https://buildsecurityin.us-cert.gov/daisy/bsi/articles/knowledge/coding/295.html I stumbled across this page. It seems that Haskell and other strongly typed functional languages like Ml/OCaml will fare much, much better, e.g. buffer overrun. Thoughts . comm

Re: [Haskell-cafe] US Homeland Security program language security risks

2008-01-03 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Galchin, Friday, January 4, 2008, 12:36:03 AM, you wrote: > I stumbled across this page. It seems that Haskell and other > strongly typed functional languages like Ml/OCaml will fare much, > much better, e.g. buffer overrun. Thoughts . comments. for me, it looks like saying that hask