Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
On 10/22/2015 02:25 PM, Edward Kmett wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Geoffrey Mainland > <mainl...@apeiron.net <mailto:mainl...@apeiron.net>> wrote: > > On 10/22/2015 01:29 PM, Edward Kmett wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:59 PM,

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
On 10/22/2015 02:40 AM, Edward Kmett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Gregory Collins > <g...@gregorycollins.net <mailto:g...@gregorycollins.net>> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Geoffrey Mainland > <mainl...@apeiron.net <

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
id this kind of issue: spend more time thinking about ways to maintain compatibility. We had proposals for doing this with AMP. Cheers, Geoff > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Geoffrey Mainland <mainl...@apeiron.net> > wrote: >> On 10/22/2015 02:40 AM, Edward Kmett wrote:

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
> I outlined one possible path to avoid this kind of issue: spend more > time thinking about ways to maintain compatibility. We had > proposals for > doing this with AMP. > > > And on the other hand we also had a concrete proposal that didn't > require language changes that was

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
On 10/21/2015 07:30 AM, Simon Peyton Jones wrote: > Friends > > I think it's good for us to debate the question of how we should balance > innovation against change; and how we should make those decisions in future. > Geoff's message had some good ideas, especially this bit: > > | Proposal 2:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Committee M.O. Change Proposals

2015-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
point reached where that > has affected a membership decision. > > -Edward > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Geoffrey Mainland > <mainl...@apeiron.net <mailto:mainl...@apeiron.net>> wrote: > > On 10/21/2015 07:55 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: > >

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
o make GHC capable of switching out entire base library > sets; but someone has to implement that, and once you have it, it > makes the report specifications _less_ essential. > > Anyhow, that's my history lesson. Take it as you (all) will. > > Cheers, > -- Dan > > On Wed, Oct

Re: Committee M.O. Change Proposals

2015-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
Apologies for the previous mailer-mangled "draft"... On 10/21/2015 07:55 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: > Hello, > > On 2015-10-21 at 02:39:57 +0200, Geoffrey Mainland wrote: > > [...] > >> In effect, only those who actively follow the libraries list have

Re: Committee M.O. Change Proposals

2015-10-21 Thread Geoffrey Mainland
On 10/21/2015 07:55 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: > Hello, > > On 2015-10-21 at 02:39:57 +0200, Geoffrey Mainland wrote: > > [...] > >> In effect, only those who actively follow the libraries list have had a >> voice in these decisions. Maybe that is wh