Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-08 Thread Cale Gibbard
The tricky thing is that while a new document describing the language in detail would be welcomed, it's hard for people to justify doing all the work that's involved in producing a new document that's substantially more helpful than the Haskell 2010 or '98 Report. Right at the moment, there's essen

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-08 Thread Cale Gibbard
To some extent I can agree with the view that certain small things should possibly be folded in, but from another perspective, I actually like the way that major language features are modular, and I can tell a lot about what to expect by looking at the top of a file. There are also things that most

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-09 Thread Richard Eisenberg
I want to chime in with agreement that the GHC2021 push may meet many of the goals you may be after. I also want to bring in a further aspect of challenge in producing a new Report: we don't really understand Haskell well enough to do so. The two Reports do a very fine job of specifying the beh

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-09 Thread Haowen Liu via Haskell-prime
Hi Richard, Thank you for chiming in! I think I now have a better idea what happened several years ago when the Haskell2020 effort died down... And thank you for that link!! I did not know it existed! (Why would they put it under a separate GitHub organization? That's why I didn't find it LO

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-10 Thread Richard Eisenberg
> On Nov 9, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Haowen Liu wrote: > And thank you for that link!! I did not know it existed! (Why would they put > it under a separate GitHub organization? That's why I didn't find it LOL) > > That's a good question. I think we did it because it's a GHC-specific process, not

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-10 Thread Haowen Liu via Haskell-prime
On 11/10/2021 11:21 AM, Richard Eisenberg wrote: On Nov 9, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Haowen Liu wrote: And thank you for that link!! I did not know it existed! (Why would they put it under a separate GitHub organization? That's why I didn't find it LOL) That's a good question. I think we did

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-11 Thread Richard Eisenberg
Great idea to link from the README: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/6974 Thanks! Richard > On Nov 10, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Haowen Liu via Haskell-prime > wrote: > > On 11/10/2021 11:21 AM, Richard Eisenberg wrote: >> >>> On Nov 9, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Haowen Liu wrote: >>> >

Re: Humble message of support and concern from an interested newbie

2021-11-12 Thread Haowen Liu via Haskell-prime
That's great! Thank you so much! Haowen On 11/11/2021 11:36 AM, Richard Eisenberg wrote: Great idea to link from the README: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/6974 Thanks! Richard On Nov 10, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Haowen Liu via Haskell-prime wrote: On 11/10/2021 11:21 AM, R