Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Luke Kanies
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > Excuse me? Typography as we know it today exists since Gutenberg; > even the history of commercial font foundries goes back a century > before the typewriter. Further, a lot of the rules of this > relatively new form of typograhpy borrow from prior conven

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Luke Kanies
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Peter da Silva wrote: > OK: in Smalltalk, Postscript, Lisp, Forth, and most other languages that > are aggressively introspective and reflective, control structures are > defined in terms of operations that can be performed within the language. > > They may be implemented in t

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 10/19/05, Earle Martin wrote: Which reminds me. Some people do "quoted" text ``like this''. Which is one of the most moronic things in the world. It crops up a lot in UNIX-type system documentation, which says a lot. And in pod2html output. I have a vim macro specially designed to fix those

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Earle Martin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 07:55:14PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > Meanwhile everyone is using apostrophes as straight quote marks. > > Which reminds me. Some people do "quoted" text ``like this''. Which is > one of the most moronic things in the world.

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Earle Martin
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 07:55:14PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > Meanwhile everyone is using apostrophes as straight quote marks. Which reminds me. Some people do "quoted" text ``like this''. Which is one of the most moronic things in the world. It crops up a lot in UNIX-type system documentation,

Abacast Streaming Media

2005-10-19 Thread Earle Martin
Click on a link to hear radio. Popup: "Abacast streaming media software currenly [sic] only supports the Windows Operating System. To manually connect to the stream, open http://www.abacast.com/media/pls/filmmusic/filmmusic-bb-64.pls with your favourite asx file interpreter." Points: 1) It's not

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* demerphq [2005-10-19 10:40]: > What do you mean by "reliably toggle case"? My understanding is > that while western european alphabets tend to have two cases, > many languages have more than two. Thus I believe it is > actually meaningless to "toggle case" in an internationalized > context. And

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread demerphq
On 10/17/05, Peter da Silva wrote: > > Software configured to use anything other than UTF-8 (or, at the > > very least another UTF-*) is hateful. I can???t wait until > > single-byte charsets are a thing of the past. > Variable width character sets are themselves hateful. I'll go further > and

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Yoz Grahame
On 10/19/05, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:00:40PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > If that's the only thing about the Unicode charset that you find hateful > > then you've not looked at it very hard. > I find especially hateful people who whine about Unicode. I think most

Re: typography of the apostrophe (was Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks))

2005-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
[ Note: if you're replying to this message, please mind the To: and Cc: -- this is crossposted to the Hates-Software and Markdown lists. ] * Patrick Carr [2005-10-18 23:40]: >On Oct 17, 2005, at 9:48 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: >>* Rhesa Rozendaal [2005-10-18 02:25]: >> >>>If that can handle thin

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Luke Kanies [2005-10-19 00:10]: > All typography is a relatively recent invention; hell, > punctuation itself isn't all that old, relative to typewriters, Excuse me? Typography as we know it today exists since Gutenberg; even the history of commercial font foundries goes back a century before t

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 09:00:40PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > If that's the only thing about the Unicode charset that you find hateful > > then you've not looked at it very hard. > I find especially hateful people who whine about Unicode. I think most people here think that Unicode is a G

Re: Significant whitespace (was Re: Blogging sucks)

2005-10-19 Thread Luke Kanies
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > If it was the terminal then the character would show up screwy, > but it wouldn't get mangled in your reply. Okay, I'll have to trust you on that. > What I'm using *is* a smart quote, I just think that's a stupid > name. > > The straight quotes were a t