Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread Peter da Silva
On 14-Nov-2007, at 13:45, Timothy Knox wrote: Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:23:14PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: If you were on UNIX, then Firefox may be hatefully using Windows behavior inappropriately. That's a bug. No, I was on Mac OS X, same as you. In this case

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 07:43:06AM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > To quote A. Pagaltzis: > "It's portable -- it works on Debian *and* RedHat!" Reminds me of the scene from the original Blues Brothers movie, when they sneak into getting a gig at Bob's Country Bunker,

Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:23:14PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > On 13-Nov-2007, at 01:43, Timothy Knox wrote: > >But let me clue you in on how GUIs work in the 21st century. > >Nowadays, when an > >application highlights a button as a default, hitting return is > >

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Tony Finch
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Benjamin Reed wrote: > > When used correctly, libtool is better than the alternatives, Hahaha. If only. I still can't get libtool-using programs to link against the libraries I want them to, not the ones libtool wants, with any kind of reliability. It's usually easier to re-do

Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Robert Rothenberg [2007-11-14 17:05]: > * Uppity > Navigate up one or more levels. So if you're at > http://www.example.com/foo/bar/baz.html but there's no link to > an upper level, let alone the root, you can quickly go to it. I use Digger

Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread Robert Rothenberg
On 14/11/07 03:54 A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Juerd Waalboer [2007-11-13 20:05]: >> I'm posting this to the list just to annoy people who are >> against using hates-software for providing fixes ;) > > Heh, well, I got a half-dozen off-list requests, so I figure > there's enough interest to justify an

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Peter da Silva
On 14-Nov-2007, at 08:45, Benjamin Reed wrote: Heh, well, I just started on 3 months ago and the first thing I took on was making installation Not Suck(TM). OpenNMS has traditionally been a bitch and a half to install, but now we have Yum repos, maintained debian packages, and I'm happy to s

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> it was actually easier getting that beggar working on FreeBSD than on > the "wrong" version of Red Hat. > Oh. That brings back memories not unlike crawling on all fours on broken class. In saltwater. With electric eels. What was I doing? Oh, right: trying to install Slashcode. In Su

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter da Silva wrote: > I guess either you slogged through the valley of hate, or OSX is as > important to the maintainers of libtool as Linux is, so it gets fixes. We had someone step up and help out by submitting patches, and libtool accepted them.

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Peter da Silva
On 14-Nov-2007, at 07:57, Benjamin Reed wrote: I have. Lots. I'm one of the maintainers for Fink (a Mac OS X "distribution") and I've been porting stuff to OSX since 2001. OSX has linker quirks as weird as AIX's (and shares AIX's "shared libraries != loadable modules" mentality). Early on,

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > You are kidding, right? Have you actually tried building anything > large enough to warrant libtool somewhere not in Linux? In general I have. Lots. I'm one of the maintainers for Fink (a Mac OS X "distribution") and I'

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Peter da Silva
Ahh, so we can add Fink to the list of supported things for libtool? Very soothing thought. I'm still stuck with AIX though, and that is not by choice. I have no plans to work with Fink. Guess Fink isn't designed for OS's like HP-UX and AIX. I treat those auto* programs as part of the "portable

Re: [offlist] Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Philip, * Philip Newton [2007-11-14 09:35]: > On Nov 14, 2007 4:54 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > * Open in browser > > http://www.spasche.net/mozilla/ > > Ah - wonderful! I used to have an extension installed for this, > but it wasn't compatible with 2.x. glad to help. :-) Regards, -- Ari

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Benjamin Reed wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >> On 13/11/2007, H.Merijn Brand wrote: >>> The header says it all >> Indeed. While we're at it, here's what my rss reader fed me this morning: >> http://udrepper.livejournal.com/19395.html >> S

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
H.Merijn Brand wrote: > Ahh, so we can add Fink to the list of supported things for libtool? > Very soothing thought. I'm still stuck with AIX though, and that is > not by choice. I have no plans to work with Fink. Guess Fink isn't > designed for OS's like HP-UX and AIX. You're right, it's not. I

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:04:21AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: >* Benjamin Reed [2007-11-14 05:55]: >> Spoken like a true developer with a Linux-centric worldview. >It's portable -- it works on Debian *and* RedHat! No, that might take some slight effort; these days it's RHell _and_ Fedora. R

[offlist] Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread Philip Newton
On Nov 14, 2007 4:54 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Open in browser > http://www.spasche.net/mozilla/ > > When a server sends a file with a MIME type Firefox doesn't > recognise, such as `text/x-diff` or `text/x-perl`, the only > options you get are passing it to another app or saving it to >

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:50:06 -0800, Benjamin Reed wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > > On 13/11/2007, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > >> The header says it all > > > > Indeed. While we're at it, here's what my rss reader fed me this morning: > >

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Benjamin Reed [2007-11-14 05:55]: > Spoken like a true developer with a Linux-centric worldview. It's portable -- it works on Debian *and* RedHat! Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > On 13/11/2007, H.Merijn Brand wrote: >> The header says it all > > Indeed. While we're at it, here's what my rss reader fed me this morning: > http://udrepper.livejournal.com/19395.html > Some good libtool hate by the gl

Re: Firefox updater hate

2007-11-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Juerd Waalboer [2007-11-13 20:05]: > I'm posting this to the list just to annoy people who are > against using hates-software for providing fixes ;) Heh, well, I got a half-dozen off-list requests, so I figure there's enough interest to justify an on-list posting anyway. * Fix for bug 348031