Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Philip Newton
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 01:17, Michael G Schwern wrote: > [1] Maybe they did in one of the newer versions of SQL, but I can't read them > because they cost a good wad of cash. God forbid the standard be available. Oh please. They _are_ available, just not for free, because the people working on t

Re: Windows download/unzip programs...

2008-10-01 Thread David King
Sadly, Apple decided that disk images are the bestest way to distribute software and so effectively replicates this hate. How so? They don't copy the contents of the DMG while mounting it, as far as I can tell. Because after downloading the disk image, you have to mount it and copy the app

Re: PHP (Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people)

2008-10-01 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:06 AM, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:43:55AM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: [1] SourceForge has now broken my CVS use in addition to my project Web uploads, and will be the subject of a future hate. Oh god, what have they done? Mine *appears* to be workin

Re: PHP (Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people)

2008-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:43:55AM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > [1] SourceForge has now broken my CVS use in addition to my project > Web uploads, and will be the subject of a future hate. Oh god, what have they done? Mine *appears* to be working but now I'm scared. -- David Cantrell | Reali

Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people

2008-10-01 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 29, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Peter da Silva wrote: There is something I call the =93Chernobyl Design Pattern=94, where = you =20 take your worst bug, the ugliest part of your code, the part that =20 is so bad, so radioactive that no one can touch it without getting =20 killed, and you mak

Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:29 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: On 2008-10-01, at 06:46, Joshua Juran wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: On 2008-09-30, at 18:17, Michael G Schwern wrote: God forbid they cover real SQL issues. Oh no! They're too busy adding fucking XML to the langu

Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2008-10-01, at 06:46, Joshua Juran wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: On 2008-09-30, at 18:17, Michael G Schwern wrote: God forbid they cover real SQL issues. Oh no! They're too busy adding fucking XML to the language! (Not a joke, wish it were). ...I am

Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: On 2008-09-30, at 18:17, Michael G Schwern wrote: God forbid they cover real SQL issues. Oh no! They're too busy adding fucking XML to the language! (Not a joke, wish it were). ...I am so not going any further with this... What's

Re: PHP (Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people)

2008-10-01 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:47 AM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great Joshua Juran once stated: On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Sean Conner wrote: -spc (Holding back the bile on a whole bunch of PHP hate ... ) No, no, by all means bring it forth! :-D Gah! Have I really been bi

Re: Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2008-09-30, at 18:17, Michael G Schwern wrote: God forbid they cover real SQL issues. Oh no! They're too busy adding fucking XML to the language! (Not a joke, wish it were). ...I am so not going any further with this...

Re: Windows download/unzip programs...

2008-10-01 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2008-09-30, at 18:18, Michael G Schwern wrote: Sadly, Apple decided that disk images are the bestest way to distribute software and so effectively replicates this hate. How so? They don't copy the contents of the DMG while mounting it, as far as I can tell.

Re: Windows download/unzip programs...

2008-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 07:18:53PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Peter da Silva wrote: > > Why in the name of all that's unholy do programs on Windows generally > > unpack or download files to a temporary location and then *copy* > > them to the final location, instead of at least *moving* them

Re: PHP (Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people)

2008-10-01 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Peter da Silva once stated: > > [10]http://boston.conman.org/2007/12/18.1 > > Someone who thinks views are for wimps. Someone who's never had to deal with SQL until told "get this working under PostgreSQL." Or ... Views? Whatcha talking 'bout, Wil

Kill. All. Hippies^W Database people^W^W Standards Authors.

2008-10-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
Simon Wistow wrote: My app needs some databases set up. because I'm a good boy the SQL that's needed for the schemas is included with the app and there's even a command to run it for you and get everything set up. Wünderbar. Except, can you spot what's wrong with this SQL statement? CR

Re: Windows download/unzip programs...

2008-10-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
Peter da Silva wrote: > Why in the name of all that's unholy do programs on Windows generally > unpack or download files to a temporary location and then *copy* > them to the final location, instead of at least *moving* them or > (god forbid) downloading them to the right location in the first > pl

Re: Windows download/unzip programs...

2008-10-01 Thread numien
jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: As for the copy vs rename? Maybe there is some reason, but I presume it's just gross stupidity. Because renaming generally doesn't work across filesystems, and this stat() thing is t haaard.