Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* sabrina downard v...@ziggurat.org [2007-12-10 18:30]: Bank One used to require an exactly four-digit password. --s. (who supposes at least they've gotten better since then... sorta kinda maybe a little.) Doesn't seem like they could go any way other than up from there. Regards, --

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread Scott Francis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:25:05AM -0500, num...@deathwyrm.com said: [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] this is almost the last place (ASR would be if they had a mailing list) I'd expect to see HTML-only mail (yeah, I could

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Scott Francis darkun...@darkuncle.net [2007-12-11 06:10]: always and forever be straight ASCII plaintext Parochial bigot. Regards, -- Αριστοτέλης Παγκαλτζής // http://plasmasturm.org/

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread numien
Scott Francis wrote: this is almost the last place (ASR would be if they had a mailing list) I'd expect to see HTML-only mail (yeah, I could pipe it to lynx or something, but c'mon ... how about leaving web pages for my web BROWSER, and sending RFC-compliant plaintext messages formatted as

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread book
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:06:14AM -0500, num...@deathwyrm.com wrote: Ricardo SIGNES wrote: Their web logins allow passwords of no MORE than eight characters. What?! Mine does the same thing. Minimum 6 characters, maximum 8. Huh? At least it's not maximum 8, but only digits. And let

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-11 Thread Abigail
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 09:52:56AM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:03:41AM -0600, sabrina downard wrote: Dear Chase: And as for you people, you can just take that ridiculous You're logging on from a new computer! OMG! authorization code

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-10 Thread numien
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: Their web logins allow passwords of no MORE than eight characters. What?! Mine does the same thing. Minimum 6 characters, maximum 8. Huh? The only reason I can think of for this is frightening... They DON'T hash our passwords, rather, store them plaintext/obscured.

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-10 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:06:14 -0500, num...@deathwyrm.com wrote: Ricardo SIGNES wrote: Their web logins allow passwords of no MORE than eight characters. What?! Mine does the same thing. Minimum 6 characters, maximum 8. Huh? The only reason I can think of for this is

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-10 Thread numien
H.Merijn Brand wrote: Is that the only hate you can think of? I presume they *accept* 8, but only *use* the first 8 characters: much more frightening Mine won't even accept it. I tried to put in a long one originally, and it gacked complaining it was over 8 characters, forced me to

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-10 Thread Rory McCann
num...@deathwyrm.com wrote: Mine does the same thing. Minimum 6 characters, maximum 8. Huh? The only reason I can think of for this is frightening... They DON'T hash our passwords, rather, store them plaintext/obscured. And long passwords eat DB space. Scary concept for a bank. Also what's

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-09 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:03:41AM -0600, sabrina downard wrote: Dear Chase: And as for you people, you can just take that ridiculous You're logging on from a new computer! OMG! authorization code transfer nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine. I am in fact NOT signing on from a

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:03:41AM -0600, sabrina downard wrote: Dear Chase: And as for you people, you can just take that ridiculous You're logging on from a new computer! OMG! authorization code transfer nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine. I am in

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-09 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Jarkko Hietaniemi j...@iki.fi [2007-12-09T09:52:56] So it *is* possible for banks to have a clue, at least sometimes. What *is* hateful is that I know it is possible to do it better, and then being subjected to the utter disasters of web sites in other banks and similar institutions. Yeah,

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi sabrina, I stopped reading after the subject. Yours with sympathy and a lie for comedic effect, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread Jonathan Katz
Aristotle/Sabrina, I concur that banking sites are becoming obtuse. I want a login page with a username and password ON THE SAME PAGE; a place where I can authenticate, click a button, and get to my goodies. I know enough to check the browser bar and make sure I'm hitting the correct site, not

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread Mike Beattie
I hate to go against the grain of the hate, but check out the interface to my online banking http://www.asbbank.co.nz/fastnetnew/ Mike.

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On 5/12/2007, at 8:54 AM, Mike Beattie wrote: I hate to go against the grain of the hate, but check out the interface to my online banking http://www.asbbank.co.nz/fastnetnew/ And just to reply to myself: Better demo: http://www.asbbank.co.nz/about-fastnet/classic_demo/demo/index.stm

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread Peter da Silva
On 04-Dec-2007, at 13:54, Mike Beattie wrote: I hate to go against the grain of the hate, but check out the interface to my online banking http://www.asbbank.co.nz/fastnetnew/ A big blank box with a flash logo in the center?

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On 5/12/2007, at 9:58 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: A big blank box with a flash logo in the center? No, that's just a tour of the 'new' system. The actual interface is decidedly HTML compliant, for a bank: https://fnc.asbbank.co.nz/ Anyway, this is not hate, so I'll shut up. Mike.