Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread Patrick Carr
On Fri, October 20, 2006 8:09 pm, Timothy Knox wrote: > Well, it all stems back to folks who want to force the web to behave like > a word > processor, where you have total control of page layout, font size, et al. You mean like Word? Pat aha ahahaha

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread Matt McLeod
On 10/21/06, Timothy Knox wrote: so when those of us with bad eyes or super hi-res monitors turn the point size of the fonts up, we get to read Text that looks like this. Or, my personal favourite, they've laid the page out to the pixel so all the text gets clipped. Yes, Remedy, I'm looking

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Timothy Knox wrote: > Text > that > looks > like > this. It could be worse -- the ones that drive me batty are the sites that combine this impulse with the impulse to split a 500 word article -- which would ordinarly be something like two pages of 8"x11" paper -- across 1

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Timothy Knox [2006-10-21 02:10]: > To all of them I would say, "Get over it!" Some of us don't > like your choice of fonts, don't agree with your decision to > artificially limit the size of our pages based on actual > inches/centimeters rather than as a percentage of window size > or in proport

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 01:09:29AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * peter f miller [2006-10-20 19:55]: > > The hateful aspect of them that got me started on the search is > > the inability to resize the windows. Ugh! > > Yeah, that is stupid. Chromeless windows can be us

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-21 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* peter f miller [2006-10-20 19:55]: > The hateful aspect of them that got me started on the search is > the inability to resize the windows. Ugh! Yeah, that is stupid. Chromeless windows can be useful, but selectively disabling UI capabilities is pointless. There should be a way to request a cer

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread peter f miller
On 10/19/06, A. Pagaltzis wrote: What's hateful is that there's no easy way to override this from the UI -- sometimes, whatever the script writer's opinion, *I* want the UI elements, and I want a button somewhere obvious on such windows that gives me back all of the browser chrome, no questions

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread Marco Von Ballmoos
On Oct 19, 2006, at 23:31, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 22:15]: Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether the content _fits_!? Wha

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread Stephen Deken
The Mac title-bar lozenge actually does this, it allows you to open a window without a toolbar or other application controls, and to get them back. Maybe browsers and popups could use something like it? Chromeless popups under Firefox on the Mac have the lozenge, and it performs as

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-20 Thread Joshua Rodman
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 04:05:31AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-20 > 00:35]: > > So you want the ability open up a new window without the > > familiar interface, that has an intuitive element to return the > > interface. > > Precisely. > > > I think our id

Re: Chromeless popups

2006-10-20 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-20 00:35]: > So you want the ability open up a new window without the > familiar interface, that has an intuitive element to return the > interface. Precisely. > I think our ideas of intuitve and obvious diverged somewhere in > the woods. (Although any sort

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread David King
What's hateful is that there's no easy way to override this from the UI -- sometimes, whatever the script writer's opinion, *I* want the UI elements, and I want a button somewhere obvious on such windows that gives me back all of the browser chrome, no questions asked. So you want the ability ope

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread jrodman
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:31:30PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 > 22:15]: > > Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create > > new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? > > Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether

Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 22:15]: > Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create > new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? > Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether the content > _fits_!? What kind of drug induces these kinds of thought