Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-21 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 07:03:05PM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > > Which of the names of standard Unix tools is particularly > > intuitive? > find Yes, but it's not immediately obvious how it differs from locate. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic "There's a hole

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-19 Thread Phil!Gregory
* Peter da Silva [2006-04-12 19:03 -0500]: > > Which of the names of standard Unix tools is particularly > > intuitive? > > find But it makes up for that with its command line arguments. Also, there's 'locate' around to muddy the waters. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http:

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-19 Thread Peter da Silva
> Which of the names of standard Unix tools is particularly > intuitive? find

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mischa Spiegelmock [2006-04-06 07:20]: > Anyway, the subject of my hate tonight is the command to list > processes, also known as "ps." (Which may I point out is a > horribly unintuitive name in itself, but I digress). Which of the names of standard Unix tools is particularly intuitive? Most ar

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Peter da Silva
> The ps usage tells me, and I quote: "fASCII art forest" Huh? > Great UNIX, just great. Let me try this on a couple of UNIX systems close at hand. -f Show commandline and environment information about swapped out processes. This option is honored only if the uid of the user is

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Rafael Garcia-Suarez [2006-04-06 14:10]: > You mean the hateful GNU ps that attemps to mimic every ps(1) > syntax out there? The one that produces completely different > outputs when invoked as "ps f" and "ps -f"? That's hateful enough by itself, but the manpage is worse. It reads like a long s

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Anton Berezin
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:07:23PM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > On 06/04/06, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > > > Strictly speaking, "ps f" -> foliage is not a UNIX thing, it's a demon > > spawn of Unix, err, a Linux thing. In traditional and/or standard > > UNIXes "f" is for "full" listing.

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 06/04/06, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: Strictly speaking, "ps f" -> foliage is not a UNIX thing, it's a demon spawn of Unix, err, a Linux thing. In traditional and/or standard UNIXes "f" is for "full" listing. You mean the hateful GNU ps that attemps to mimic every ps(1) syntax out there? The

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
>> mode. >> The ps usage tells me, and I quote: "fASCII art forest" >> It's a forest because it has trees. Get it? > > Actually, yes, just as per the definition of "tree" and "forest" in > graph theory; cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_%28graph_theory%29 I have more problems here with th

Re: Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:14:36PM -0700, Mischa Spiegelmock wrote: > And to think some people actually have the nerve to claim UNIX-style > operating systems are not user-friendly! > Here we are, in the year two thousand and six of our Lord, and UNIX > commands still somehow manage to be as ha

Easy-to-remember flags

2006-04-06 Thread Mischa Spiegelmock
And to think some people actually have the nerve to claim UNIX-style operating systems are not user-friendly! Here we are, in the year two thousand and six of our Lord, and UNIX commands still somehow manage to be as hateful as ever. Anyway, the subject of my hate tonight is the command to list