Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread peter f miller
On 10/19/06, A. Pagaltzis wrote: What's hateful is that there's no easy way to override this from the UI -- sometimes, whatever the script writer's opinion, *I* want the UI elements, and I want a button somewhere obvious on such windows that gives me back all of the browser chrome, no questions

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread Marco Von Ballmoos
On Oct 19, 2006, at 23:31, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 22:15]: Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether the content _fits_!? Wha

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread Stephen Deken
The Mac title-bar lozenge actually does this, it allows you to open a window without a toolbar or other application controls, and to get them back. Maybe browsers and popups could use something like it? Chromeless popups under Firefox on the Mac have the lozenge, and it performs as expected

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread David King
What's hateful is that there's no easy way to override this from the UI -- sometimes, whatever the script writer's opinion, *I* want the UI elements, and I want a button somewhere obvious on such windows that gives me back all of the browser chrome, no questions asked. So you want the ability ope

Re: Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-20 Thread jrodman
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:31:30PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 > 22:15]: > > Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create > > new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? > > Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether

Chromeless popups (was: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox)

2006-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* jrod...@hate.spamportal.net [2006-10-19 22:15]: > Create new window. Stupid, but I can see the rationale. Create > new window without the normal url bar? Whaat? Without _Menus_? > Without *scrollbars*, regardless of whether the content > _fits_!? What kind of drug induces these kinds of thought

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Martin Ebourne [2006-10-19 22:10]: > Of course, that would require it to maintain a list of always > blocked addresses in addition to the list of always allowed, > quite a bit of extra code complexity. Or bugs. > > And then there's all the extra UI complexity of letting people > edit this list.

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Ebourne
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:13 -0700, jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: > Not that this excuses firefox in the least, but I've been using privoxy > with firefox successfully for a few years essentially 0 unwanted popups > (and zero unwanted "did you want this popup?" gui things). I've been using it

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Ebourne
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:38 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Martin Ebourne wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 11:47 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > >> I know, and that is one possibility. But my real bitch is that while there > >> is > >> an option to "Always allow" a website to open a popup, there i

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread jrodman
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:47:53AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 02:41:04PM -0400, Dan Noe > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:34:32AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > > > But, you hateful little pile of &$#^@&, why in the name of all > > > that is

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Ebourne
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 11:47 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > I know, and that is one possibility. But my real bitch is that while there is > an option to "Always allow" a website to open a popup, there is NOT one to > "Always deny." Some websites I don't ever wish to permit to open popups, > because >

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Timothy Knox
Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 02:41:04PM -0400, Dan Noe wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:34:32AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > > But, you hateful little pile of &$#^@&, why in the name of all that is > > wonderful won't you give me the option to say, "No! I never *ever* unde

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Dan Noe
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:34:32AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > But, you hateful little pile of &$#^@&, why in the name of all that is > wonderful won't you give me the option to say, "No! I never *ever* under > any circumstances wish to allow to open a > popup." You don't need to warn me about it

Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

2006-10-19 Thread Timothy Knox
Dear firefox, Thanks so very much for blocking popups (mostly). And thank you so very much for adding a little message stripe at the top of the screen letting me know that you did. Good to know you are on the job. I'll even say thanks for offering to let me change options for handling popups from