Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-26 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Benjamin Reed wrote: How about: Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a few decades. We haven't noticed only because we've changed technologies so much in the short lifespan of

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread David . Mackintosh
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:15:00AM +0900, Dave Brown wrote: And as a bonus, the new LOM now has greatly-improved, much-more intuitive commands! Why would you want to waste your time typing silly things like poweroff and poweron which any fool could guess? Now in the wonderful Age Of The

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread demerphq
2009/3/25 b...@cpan.org: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:30:19PM +0100, demerphq wrote: Hows that for a thought? Some hacker 100 years from now may be bitching about how hateful the microfiche robot is while they are trying to convert it into the new fancy nano storage technology... Well, we

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 demerphq wrote: Anyway, I apologise for not working out how to make this post about hateful software... How about: Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Yoz Grahame
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Benjamin Reed rangerr...@befunk.com wrote: Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a few decades. We haven't noticed only because we've changed technologies so much in the

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread demerphq
2009/3/25 Yoz Grahame y...@yoz.com: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Benjamin Reed rangerr...@befunk.com wrote: Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a few decades. We haven't noticed only because we've

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
demerphq wrote: 2009/3/25 Yoz Grahame y...@yoz.com: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Benjamin Reed rangerr...@befunk.com wrote: Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a few decades. We haven't noticed

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Our entire infrastructure as a society has moved to digital storage, and yet we don't have backups that would last for more than a few decades. I seem to recall a few years ago seeing a documentary that showed how the Library of Congress records all their audio recordings onto vinyl.

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron J. Grier
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:09:20PM +0100, demerphq wrote: Anyway, I apologise for not working out how to make this post about hateful software... just because you can hit it with a hammer doesn't mean there isn't software underneath. all these webby management doodads and they're still not as

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 01:52:22PM +0100, b...@cpan.org wrote: How about a civilization 1000 years from now finding a bunch of hard drives or CD-Rom full of documents in the binary format of your choice? They'd find junk. The plastic used to bond CD's isn't nearly as long-lived as papyrus.

Re: Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-25 Thread David . Mackintosh
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:27:38AM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote: I also hates the firmware in our StorageTek 2540, which has been throwing an amber trouble light on the face plate for as long as we've had it, in spite of their webby management doo-dad showing nothing wrong and the SAN itself

Thanks a lot, Sun

2009-03-24 Thread Dave Brown
Do you remember in the good old days, when Sun had this revolutionary thing called a Lights-Out Management, which was basically an overachieving serial console? One of the really cool things about the LOM was how you could actually power-cycle the server. You typed the following commands: