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Hi, Cliff. Yes, technically and ideally, you are correct. But expecting
catalogers to know when a second word should aspirated would be expecting a
knowledge of Hebrew grammar that is unrealistic for almost all of us. We
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K/kohen…
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Did I overlook an obvious answer? I do not recall seeing anyone who suggeste
Did I overlook an obvious answer?
I do not recall seeing anyone who suggested
Bi-Vene Verak
Ki-Vene Verak
Li-Vene Verak
Mi-Bene Verak
Shouldn’t this be the accepted form?
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Well, I don’t agree wi
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Well, I don’t agree with the notion that we have to transcribe the non-Hebrew
names according to the r
stions! Thanks, Jasmin
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Well, I don’t agree with the notion that we have to tran
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Hi Vanessa, Grammatically speaking, I would Romanize it as be-Vizant. yun
Hi Vanessa:
The HCM pp.17-18 "Foreign loan words" discusses this point briefly, but the
only guidance provided is " A few loan words are also treated as though
exempt from the rules governing the aspiration/ non-aspiration of b/v,
k/kh, and p/f when preceded by an open syllable." There are a coup
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How would you Romanise בביזנטיון (in Byzantium)? I would think be-Vizan
How would you Romanise בביזנטיון (in Byzantium)? I would think be-Vizanṭyon
but OCLC 1378074102 has be-Bizanṭyon. Would you retain the B after be- because
it’s a foreign loan word?
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