On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Etienne Chove wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 04:25:20PM +1100, Tim Nelson wrote:
We'll need a little more information before we can help, such as:
- Do you want to generate this on the server, or on each client
- Assuming you want it on the serve
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copy:
/var/cfengine/inputs/etc/hosts dest=/etc/hosts
Insufficient data to solve problem :). What does your
actionsequence say (in the control section).
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Jason Martin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:28:55AM +1100, Tim Nelson wrote:
http://madstop.com/svn/libmetrics/
I'm getting a 404 from that page, are you sure it is correct?
Sorry:
http://reductivelabs.com/svn/libmetrics/
http://reductivelabs.com/down
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Bas van der Vlies wrote:
Tim Nelson wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Mark Burgess wrote:
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 09:12 -0500, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
Hi Mark,
I would be interested in being able to add arbitrary metrics to cfenv
in
a way similar to gmetric for ganglia.
For
of ganglia.
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ngine::/var/cfengine/inputs/cf.fstab:11: EndGroup without Begin
cf:cfengine::/var/cfengine/inputs/cf.fstab:12: Editfiles Begin/End
mismatch before or at line
Is your version of cfengine the same version as the documentation
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dependency resolution and repository
management (although again, I've tried to make it easy to add
more)
iii)The stuff for setting up staging servers is still definately in
beta (or maybe even alpha)
So, you could do it that way, but it would require some codi
don't need to get the system
state information back to the central location. If you still think you
do, then give us an example problem, and see if we can think of a better
way to solve it :).
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.specifically, defining a class on copy, and running
shellcommands if the class is true.
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ow best to avoid probs?
Well, it would probably be a good idea to ask the same question on
the network-automation list :).
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That way
you only have one push in the network, and it reduces the problems
associated with push documented in the links supplied by others in this
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ff is cfengine-masterconf (and if you want
a packaging database, arpmats). cfperl is something entirely different,
and is by Ted Zlatanov.
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ving an InsertIf.. set of commands may be a worthy addition to CFEngine.
Just don't ask me to write it, I wouldn't know where to start. ;)
Everyone agrees editfiles needs work. But the only plans afoot
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ose who are willing to do the extra work of adding another layer
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This would also be me, at least at the moment.
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t;otherwhatever"
CatchAbort # Catches abort from LocateLineMatching, so you
# can put other editfiles stuff after
But I'm never sure, because I just write
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ever discovered, there isn't one. Feel free to
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which has the name of the executeable that they want.
2. how to do it immediately upon login.
sudo cfagent -q
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uilding on a system from scratch?
Only the usual which apply to any software.
* Where in the documentation is the "outputs" directory discussed and
when output is created?
I'd suggest searching for "outputs" in the reference manual.
What about email to
You can now run cfengine in classes mode. You invoke it from the
command line thusly:
cat /etc/cfengineclasses
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more packaging-friendly and
automation friendly.
I use cfengine-masterconf for this:
http://arpmats.sourceforge.net/ and click on the cfengine-masterconf link.
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love with queries like "cfengine create
user" and "cfengine manage users".
In a perfect world, this idiom would turn into a users: section, but alas
I've not yet had the time to write a patch.
You may both want to check out cfperl from Ted Zlatanov (sp?).
've left in
the database table, etc, for dealing with the patch stuff, so it should be easy
to implement in Arpmats if someone wants to take the time to do it.
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submit a doco patch; the Reference is in
the source (I believe it's in info format; someone will correct me if I'm
wrong).
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/whatever to do eg. up2date cfengine (or you could just
grab the package from the DAG repo yourself).
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won't run the same thing
twice in the same minute, as a protection device; I think you'd have to
define the same command twice to get it to run twice.
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server and client on different sides of a NAT?
What's your TrustKeysFrom line?
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st want to understand criticisms of Perl,
because they may point out better ways of doing things that I will run
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Ed Brown wrote:
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 19:34, Tim Nelson wrote:
He's adding stuff to the end of the filename. So, for example,
say we want file foo on servers that are both mail servers and web
servers, we get this:
Mark (msa) solution:
.../usr/local/bi
re
expressive (ie. less code = more functionality) than any other language in
this problem domain. I use Perl for the same reason elsewhere. I'm just
wondering if I've missed something, which is why I'm asking if Mark (B)
could take a moment to indicate which of the four options
;d have to modify the templating code to
get it to do that, instead of just downloading and using it.
The only problem with his is if he ever wants a file that's
actually named t.__class__ and it strips the stuff off the end.
But now he knows why I like "find . -name 'foo*
ur files end up in an RPM, and get rolled out via a different
method (see http://arpmats.sourceforge.net/ ). But yes, you end up with a
new branch for every combination of classes that you want to copy files
for. I use find a lot :).
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to the central machine;
just specify the source and destination the other way around (and get your
cfservd to allow uploads for that directory).
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# * Set Classes to decide whether to do this
# * Copy files (ignore this)
# * Kill modules link
# * Links (create one lot of new links)
# * Links (create the other lot of new links)
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man page), or to use
-vv instead of --verbose (I know -vv gives more info than -v, but not sure
how the long option fits). That might give you a little more info.
If it makes you feel better, I occasionally get that message too,
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ly be able to perform actions that that user can perform. To my mind,
this wouldn't be very practical.
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start" on the server
3. Run "service cfexecd start" on the client (which can be the same
machine)
You may find it helpful to look at the draft Quick Start guide:
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/QuickStart
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still produces duplicates. Let us
know the results of this, and we'll see if we can help.
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l...
The cfengine-masterconf stuff has embedded documentation stuff
(like Perl POD), and it would be easy to add the stuff you mention to it,
I think.
http://arpmats.sourceforge.net/cfengine-masterconf/
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what kind of values are being passed to the
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Help-cfengine mailing list
Help-cfengine@gnu.org
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uot;.
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, but unfortunately,
cfengine is a little too complicated to learn that way. You just have to
start with a minimal config and do a lot of RTFM.
Sorry, I've been off work sick, but there is a draft QuickStart
guide.
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/QuickStart
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ld be helped along by the use of the Perl
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http://arpmats.sourceforge.net/cfengine-masterconf/
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xtSQL (see links
below) would probably enable you to do that kind of thing.
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/Editfiles
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/TextSQL
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On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tod Oace wrote:
On May 24, 2005, at 21:01, Tim Nelson wrote:
An interesting idea, but I would still have to double my quantity of
copy statements, yes? One set for the primary server and a second for
the alternate. Or am I misunderstanding?
That's why we
t's why we need Templating in the next version of cfengine:
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/Templating_Ideas
Warning; the above documents a number of different templating
ideas.
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m/gnu/docs/cfengine/cfengine-Anomalies_2.html
So, it basically collects data on your system, and when something
statistically unusual happens, cfagent will define extra classes.
I'd always wondered a bit about this, and now I know. I'll link to it
from the wiki to make it easier to fin
On Wed, 18 May 2005, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
"Tim Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/18/05 4:50 AM >>>
On Tue, 17 May 2005, Kelly Brown wrote:
Hi Paul:
Try this the first time you run it...
cfagent -f /etc/cfengine/update.conf
Just a clarifying note that /etc/cfengine/updat
/inputs on each new machine, so I never have
to specify the -f option. Sure it gets overwritten on the first run, but
that doesn't bother me :).
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On Sun, 15 May 2005, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
Does this make sense? Any help is appreciated...
Try this:
cfagent -q -vv 2>&1 | tee ~/cf01.log
Then look at cf01.log, and see what's being copied, and if
cfagent.conf isn't, see what the error is :).
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Maybe instead I should be asking, is there a summary of the
features we'll be looking at for cfengine 3 that I can read (which might
answer these questions)?
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On Tue, 10 May 2005, Brendan Strejcek wrote:
I really hope the actionsequence goes away in cfengine 3.
I didn't see anything about it on the Wishlist on cfwiki :). What
would you replace it with?
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On Tue, 3 May 2005, nathan r. hruby wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Tim Nelson wrote:
On Mon, 2 May 2005, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Dear Cfengineers,
Did anyone create logwatch scripts for cfengine? I would bet they can be
useful - I'm using logwatch to keep an eye on a few hosts.
What do you
ts in syslog?
I use Logwatch, but as soon as I have the resources, I'll get it
rewritten to deal with multiple hosts logging to a central server to cut
down on the number of e-mails we receive. Kirk (Logwatch lead) has agreed
to this in principle, but this was a few years back.
er files are inherited by later includes, but
not vice-versa."
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Tim Nelson wrote:
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WHERE
CurrentBlock = "service amanda"
AND Field(0) = "disable"
DO
Field(1) = yes
-
e above would be pretty convergent, I'd hope. Obviously not
until cfengine 3.0, though :). Yes, there are problems with the above
approach, but I think it would help us to think convergently about things.
What do you think?
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on of Templating ideas (see link to Wiki below,
and scroll to bottom of page).
http://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/Templating_Ideas
In fact, what would be cool is triggering off templating both
before and after the copy, so that stuff could be done depending on the
server config, and on the
ough I'd be guessing that
improved packaging support would be popular (I'm working on it myself :)
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olves one problem. Of course, there are other ways.
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shellcommands + date +'%s'
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lems. But I've been
distracted from working on it for the last week, and may be for the next
week or two as well.
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tp://cfwiki.org/cfwiki/index.php/Wishlist ). However, I'd suggest
that you either ask the Webmin community, or contact the person who
originally wrote the webmin module for cfengine.
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perl template (a la
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/Perl scripts to real packages.
Then, by definition, there is no way to automate these, right? So
they'd have to be managed manually from something like cfengine.
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have dependencies
-
Would it be reasonable to treat patches as a case of packages?
Can I have some input from someone who knows about patches? (Chip? :) ).
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Ed Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 21:53, Tim Nelson wrote:
I've only been skimming, and I thought that someone had already
explained, but in double-checking, they haven't.
The relevant
yours does what it does, but I know the above works
for me, and I'm guessing that that's essentially what you're trying to do.
As to my guess as to what it's doing now, that's based on a gut feeling,
not a rational explanation.
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or macros defined in imported files are only defined after the main
program. Variables from earlier files are inherited by later includes, but
not vice-versa.
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ulated with the others). That leaves:
< >
Or if you prefer named operators: le ge
Or using Nathan's suggestion: LessThan, GreaterThan
I prefer the symbolic ones (being a Perl-type guy), but Nathan's
operators look more cfenginely.
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, nathan r. hruby wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Tim Nelson wrote:
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classes:
# See if we're overlimt
MailqueOverLimit = ( ReturnsZero(/bin/sh -c "expr `ls
/var/spool/mqueue/ | grep q.*| wc -l` \> 12 > /dev/null") )
nsswitch.conf can do this (yes? no?).
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suggestions for
monitoring the number of files in a directory?
Hmm. If I were doing it, I'd make a shell script. Of course,
that would mean that alerts wouldn't work. I might also try a cfengine
method.
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tionality. Alternatively, you could write
a method that performs various operations on users, eg. create (if not
existing), delete, modify, and the like, and then call them from your
other cfengine scripts. If you do that, we'd be interested in seeing
them.
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to find specifically what you are dealing with.
Perhaps the module previously put up for Scientific Linux would work in a
more general fashion?
I'd be in favour, but I don't know how others would feel about
perl :).
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hat way do the classes listed above not fulfil your
requirements?
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any::
"diff ..."
You'd need to put in the full path for diff, and you'd need to
fill in the ... options appropriately, but the other two lines are fine.
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the like could use it), so if there
were such a project, we'd presumably have more people working on it than
just the cfengine coders, contributing things for various package formats.
Now the question for Mark: if such a library existed, would
cfengine use it?
(A similar library fo
ve too much fun with it. It will also, when it gets
to release quality, make it much easier to write a Quick Reference guide.
Thanks,
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No home patterns to search
Purging private classes from context update
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* (Changing context state to: main) *
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Can someone unsubscribe "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from the cfengine
lists, because every time I send in an e-mail, I get an "Unknown user"
bounceback.
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lars Damerow wrote:
From Tim Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:32:57PM
+1100:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lars Damerow wrote:
What everyone else seems to do is:
1. Add something like "cfagent -q -Dkickstart" to /etc/rc.local
2.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Knut Auvor Grythe wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:25:25PM +1100, Tim Nelson wrote:
Is there a reason you define "generate_sshd_config" twice? As a
more general question, which condition do you want the class defined on?
Yes, as I wrote in an earlie
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Knut Auvor Grythe wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:32:57PM +1100, Tim Nelson wrote:
What everyone else seems to do is:
1. Add something like "cfagent -q -Dkickstart" to /etc/rc.local
2. Add something to cfengine which removes the above lin
the end of the method (unless returned). If this isn't what
happens, I'd like someone to let me know.
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