David Combs wrote:
> ""? "?".
>
> Why the (shows my age, no?) didn't
> "they" (rms?) call them pageDown and pageUp?
>
> Yeah, maybe those two words, prior and next, are defined
> somewhere in the gnu-emacs manual, but c'm on, give me a break!
As far as I can tell, the XK_Page_Up and XK_Page_Down
> ""? "?".
> Why the (shows my age, no?) didn't
> "they" (rms?) call them pageDown and pageUp?
That's how X11 calls the key (except that Emacs downcases then event name).
Stefan
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Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I think the PageUp/PageDown keys are more intuitive than the wheel.
>And guess what C-PageUp and C-PageDown do in Emacs!
Well, THANK YOU FOR THAT!
I never would have known it but for your two lines there!
No? But
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"Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There is a excellent windows binary cvs emacs distribution available
>> at http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/.
>
> Actually, the binary on nqmacs is quite outdated. Whoever maintains
> that should probably release a newer binary ASAP.
New binaries are p
nfreimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Hansen wrote:
>
>>Is it that difficult to ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk ?
>
> David, imagine for a moment, that there are *some* users out there
> who are not familiar with "C" development, having not all
> development libraries installed, or are ot
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:05:43 +0100 nfreimann wrote:
> David Hansen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Is it that difficult to ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk ?
>>
> David, imagine for a moment, that there are *some* users out there who
> are not familiar with "C" development, having not all development
> librari
> From: nfreimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:09:02 +0100
>
> latest release is 21.3.50.1-20050130 dated to January 30ths, 2005,
> what is pretty recent. Eli you should visit nqemacs site more
> frequently.
Given that they update the binary once in about 6 months, and even
the
David Hansen wrote:
Is it that difficult to ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk ?
David, imagine for a moment, that there are *some* users out there who
are not familiar with "C" development, having not all development
libraries installed, or are otherwise unwilling doing time consuming
builds.
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:13:20 +0100 (CET) nfreimann wrote:
> Why not supporting a binary cvs gtk2-emacs
> for linux at ftp.gnu or sourceforge.net? Whats the
> problem with that?
Is it that difficult to ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk ?
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>Actually, the binary on nqmacs is quite outdated. Whoever maintains
>that should probably release a newer binary ASAP.
latest release is 21.3.50.1-20050130 dated to January 30ths, 2005,
what is pretty recent. Eli you should visit nqemacs site more
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> From: August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:40:38 +0100
>
> > There is a excellent windows binary cvs emacs
> > distribution available at
> > http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/. Its the best windows
> > emacs ever.
>
> Unfortunately, this release "still" uses the old-style scrollb
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:13:20 +0100 (CET)
> From: nfreimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Clearly spoken, emacs without gkt and advanced windows support is
> outdated. Its looks anachronistic and behaves crippled
People who are unhappy with the rate of Emacs releases (and with pace
of Emacs develo
August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Unfortunately, this release "still" uses the old-style
> scrollbar. What we want is a Windows XP scrollbar in Windows XP.
well, the first step is to know yourself. that's good. now you
get to look at the scenery to see what's outside yourself. in the
end, o
August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On lör, 2005-02-26 at 02:17 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > nfreimann wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is a excellent windows binary cvs emacs
>> >> distribution available at
>> >> http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/. Its
On lÃr, 2005-02-26 at 01:13 +0100, nfreimann wrote:
> --- August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
> > With "the standard Emacs release" I mean the non-CVS
> > version. Will this
> > GUI support make it to the next release?
>
> cvs emacs offers gkt and advanced windows support
> since more than an
On lÃr, 2005-02-26 at 02:17 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > nfreimann wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a excellent windows binary cvs emacs
> >> distribution available at
> >> http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/. Its the best windows
> >> emacs ever. Why not su
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> nfreimann wrote:
>>
>> There is a excellent windows binary cvs emacs
>> distribution available at
>> http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/. Its the best windows
>> emacs ever. Why not supporting a binary cvs gtk2-emacs
>> for linux at ftp.gnu or sourceforge.
nfreimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --- August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>> With "the standard Emacs release" I mean the non-CVS
>> version. Will this
>> GUI support make it to the next release?
>
> cvs emacs offers gkt and advanced windows support
> since more than an year. Therefore I
nfreimann wrote:
> --- August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>> With "the standard Emacs release" I mean the non-CVS
>> version. Will this
>> GUI support make it to the next release?
>
> cvs emacs offers gkt and advanced windows support
> since more than an year. Therefore I wonder that the
> n
--- August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> With "the standard Emacs release" I mean the non-CVS
> version. Will this
> GUI support make it to the next release?
cvs emacs offers gkt and advanced windows support
since more than an year. Therefore I wonder that the
new 21.4 does not support gtk. Cl
On fre, 2005-02-25 at 19:36 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On fre, 2005-02-25 at 15:18 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> >
> >> Athena does not mix with Gtk, and Athena menus and dialogs suck
> >> royally.
> >
> > I think that if the standard Emacs release suppo
August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On fre, 2005-02-25 at 15:18 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Athena does not mix with Gtk, and Athena menus and dialogs suck
>> royally.
>
> I think that if the standard Emacs release supported a native look
> and feel of the menu bar and the scrollbar on the m
On fre, 2005-02-25 at 15:18 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> You'll probably scream out in horror, but I use
> >> --with-gtk --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
> >> for my version of Emacs, with a few X resources to make the default
> >> scroll bars somewh
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> You'll probably scream out in horror, but I use
>> --with-gtk --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
>> for my version of Emacs, with a few X resources to make the default
>> scroll bars somewhat broader and nicer in color.
>
> Why Gtk?
Because the menus are _
> You'll probably scream out in horror, but I use
> --with-gtk --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
> for my version of Emacs, with a few X resources to make the default
> scroll bars somewhat broader and nicer in color.
Why Gtk? With Athena, you'd get a nicer looking Xaw3d scrollbar (unless
your Xaw3d
Lee Sau Dan wrote:
>> "Hendrik" == Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hendrik> Mouse wheels are a great invention.
>
> A great invention to cause damage to the fine muscles in the hand?
Depends on the hand, I guess. Small mouse, big hand is surely not the best
solution.
>
> "Hendrik" == Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hendrik> Mouse wheels are a great invention.
A great invention to cause damage to the fine muscles in the hand?
Hendrik> Instead ofmouse1/mouse2 to scroll,you use
Hendrik> scroll_up/scroll_down, nothing
On tor, 2005-02-24 at 11:25 +0100, Peter Dyballa wrote:
> Am 24.02.2005 um 01:44 schrieb August:
>
> > How (exactly) do I download and compile the developer version of Emacs?
> > I have no experience with CVS.
>
> It's not only this (http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=emacs): to make
> this CVS
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars
suck.
To change the direction of moving, I have to move the
>
David Kastrup wrote:
> Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> David Kastrup wrote:
>>
>>> And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars
>>> suck.
>>>
>>> To change the direction of moving, I have to move the
>>> mouse. I can't control the size of the move except b
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars
>> suck.
>>
>> To change the direction of moving, I have to move the
>> mouse. I can't control the size of the move except by dragging (a
>> recipe for RSI).
David Kastrup wrote:
> And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars
> suck.
>
> To change the direction of moving, I have to move the mouse. I can't
> control the size of the move except by dragging (a recipe for RSI).
> When scrolling in one direction repeatedly, the momen
August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On tor, 2005-02-24 at 00:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>> August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and
>> > menubar? I have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the
>> > `--with-x-toolkit' option, but i
Am 24.02.2005 um 01:44 schrieb August:
How (exactly) do I download and compile the developer version of Emacs?
I have no experience with CVS.
It's not only this (http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=emacs): to make
this CVS Emacs it's not enough to invoke make, but you have to tell it
'make bootstr
August wrote:
> On tor, 2005-02-24 at 00:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>> August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and menubar?
>> > I have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the `--with-x-toolkit'
>> > option, but it doesn't work.
>>
>>
On tor, 2005-02-24 at 00:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and menubar?
> > I have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the `--with-x-toolkit'
> > option, but it doesn't work.
>
> It wouldn't. You need
August <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and menubar?
> I have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the `--with-x-toolkit'
> option, but it doesn't work.
It wouldn't. You need a developer version of Emacs to compile for
GTK.
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Can I compile Emacs so that it uses GTK style scrollbar and menubar? I
have tried to configure Emacs 21.3 with the `--with-x-toolkit' option,
but it doesn't work.
$ ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk
loading cache ./config.cache
configure: error: `--with-x-toolkit=gtk' is invalid\;
this option's val
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