Re: Shepherd and Guille

2018-11-09 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Vladimir Sedach writes: [...] > Since that work in the 1970s, the only unsolved problem for using > dynamic languages in systems programming has been designing a hard > real-time garbage collector, and that has been solved in 2003 at > IBM.⁴ > > ¹ >

Re: Shepherd and Guille

2018-11-08 Thread Vladimir Sedach
> thank you both Vladimir and Pierre for taking the time to respond. > while i also thought that the article was not so well done, the point > about using GC/JIT/etc. languages for "critical" software like init > seemed somewhat worth investigating. thus thanks again for your > inputs. Sorry, I

Re: Shepherd and Guille

2018-11-04 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
I also gave it a quick read and I tend to agree with Vladimir: this article comes off as a rant (like most other articles on this website according to the author) with poor arguments and poor understanding of engineering and the bigger picture of computing. In my opinion, the style betrays the

Re: Shepherd and Guille

2018-10-31 Thread Vladimir Sedach
> which raises some issues with the Shepherd init system (towards the > end in the section "Robustness and failure modes"), in particular > with its use of an interpreted and garbage collected language. i > was wondering if anyone here with knowledge about this would care to > comment on the