Re: Thread/task confusion (again?)

2000-04-11 Thread Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Jan Atle Ramsli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some of the questions with regards to functions insode functions was > mine. > It is rarely used (suddenly I am confused - isn't this a C++ extension? > I'm gettingold ..) It is a GCC extension. See: (gcc)Nested Functions.

Re: A new list for Direction of Hurd discussion

2000-04-11 Thread Gerald Gutierrez
I concur. The word "vision" means different things to different people, but "direction" may be more down-to-earth. I think it'll end up being a list where possible applications for the Hurd are discussed. Possibly it will include rationale, method, and problems. At 01:02 AM 4/11/00 -0400, you

Re: About microkernels & hurd direction ....

2000-04-11 Thread Jan Atle Ramsli
Jim Franklin wrote: > > it's a funky little funktion :) Can you dig it? lol >From Kiruna ... > > > - Funktion: void ports_manage_port_operations_multithread > > (struct port_bucket *BUCKET, ports_demuxer_type DEMUXER, I hope I don't have to look in the BIT-BUCKET to find wisdom ...

Re: Thread/task confusion (again?)

2000-04-11 Thread Jan Atle Ramsli
"Thomas Bushnell, BSG" wrote: > > sets, but all that means is that newly created threads in that task > get assigned to that processor set by default. Thanks for clearing up a couple of things. So this means that there is only _one_ execution control structure. Does the package contain an overvie

Re: About microkernels & hurd direction ....

2000-04-11 Thread Jim Franklin
it's a funky little funktion :) Can you dig it? lol Jim Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote: > > - Funktion: void ports_manage_port_operations_multithread > (struct port_bucket *BUCKET, ports_demuxer_type DEMUXER, > > (I wonder where that "k" came from.) >

Re: Thread/task confusion (again?)

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jan Atle Ramsli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The first one is about 'sunchcronous/asynchronous' - I am used to > thinking about this in terms of 'call/interrupt' but there seems to be > some other meaning in the text, is this related to port acess, and in > that case, has it got to do with wait/

Re: Targetting HURD - my two cents.

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Which has more or less been a premise of mine. Hurd has the right > architecture, and it is pristine and fluid enough that we can mould it into > what we want. It isn't that pristine and fluid anymore. Who is this "we"?

Re: Targetting HURD

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's not just about satisfying the requirements, it's also about > understanding the characteristics of and supporting the applications to > make it easy (or possible!) for them to do their jobs. This may mean that the Hurd is not a good real-time

Re: Direction of hurd?

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Nic Ferrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is a need for long term thinking but anyone who does it is only > going to produce decent ideas by downloading the HURD and working out > what it might be good for and what it might need to make it great in > other areas. There seems to be some a

Re: A new list for Direction of Hurd discussion

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 01:02:07AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > Is hurd-vision a good name for multimedia discussion? (Any dissentors? > > anyone care?) > > Is the focus of this new list multimedia only? I thought the direction was > broader

Re: The Vision of the HURD

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The same is not true of the Hurd. There is hardly any momentum at all. > There are only a handful of people engaged in it. If a building collapsed > on them, I'm uncertain how many people have enough interest to take over as > the lead, and be abl

Re: Direction of hurd?

2000-04-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Will Thomas/Mark accept the patches? At the beginning of May you had > sent in a patch to rename the catch keyword in libthreads to catch_exit > to match gnumach and it was never applied. Corrupting the Hurd source with C++ grot is not in my favority

RE: Direction of hurd?

2000-04-11 Thread Steve Homer
> The list in my head would take too long to dump out, and is > changing fast. > I hope to finish one of the bigger tasks in weeks rather than > months, to > get a lot of the burden from my shoulders. What would that be? > > Apart from what I keep in mind, the task list on the Debian >

Re: Direction of hurd?

2000-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 11:35:27PM -0500, Neal H Walfield wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > > > to start. I think I have a good overview on the situation by now, and I am > So I have another two or three years before I will understand what is going > on? Ouch ;) I was mostly referring to organizational s

Re: About microkernels & hurd direction ....

2000-04-11 Thread Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Jan Atle Ramsli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The first thing I am going to do when I figure out what this function > does, is write my understanding down above the function header. It is documented in the manual at (hurd)RPC Management: - Funktion: void ports_manage_port_operations_multithrea