Re: About microkernels & hurd direction ....

2000-04-14 Thread Jan Atle Ramsli
First of all, thanks to Thomas Bushnell, BSG for taking the time to answer my newbie questions. > (like, say, Scheme), and you should learn to get used to it and even > use it in your own programs! It makes things much cleaner overall. Well, I guess even old dogs can learn new tricks, the idea of

oskit-20000202

2000-04-14 Thread Hirohito Higuchi
Greeting Hello, ALL. I'm interested in oskit-mach,and I tried to compile it. But when I compiled oskit-2202.tar.gz, I failed. Following is What I did. ((On GNU/Hurd)) 1:extract oskit-2202.tar.gz 2:cd above-directry;mkdir obj;cd obj 3:#../configure --prefix=/usr 4:#make (failed with foll

Re: oskit-20000202

2000-04-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 09:00:39PM +0900, Hirohito Higuchi wrote: > Greeting > Hello, ALL. > > I'm interested in oskit-mach,and I tried to compile it. > But when I compiled oskit-2202.tar.gz, I failed. The version of gcc is old and broken: It doesn't define __ELF__. If you edit the specs fil

Hardware clock

2000-04-14 Thread David Nowak
Hi, Since I have installed and booted Debian GNU/Hurd the first time, my dardware clock goes too quickly! Is it a coincidence or did one of you encounter this problem before ? By the way, access to my ext2 partition is extremely slow compared to other. Is there any explanation ? Thanks, -- Da

MIG, examples, docs

2000-04-14 Thread jr
Hello, I'm breaking trough some papers about MIG, and servers writing. Where can i find mig ? I'd like to see how it produces code. questions: all hurd's servers are written with mig's help? where can i get description/documentation of particular servers? thanks for any help, sorry for my poo

Re: The Vision of the HURD

2000-04-14 Thread Gerald Gutierrez
No, not at all. I care about the Hurd, or else I would not be writing this message (and the long thread that preceded this discussing the possibilities). I expect that everyone in this list cares about the Hurd also, or else they would not discuss it, and would not work on it. The point is th

Re: Targetting HURD - my two cents.

2000-04-14 Thread Gerald Gutierrez
I realize that I'm talking to one of the "holders of the key", but why do you say that it is not so? The implicit assumption that I think exists here is that any change of direction will mean a rewrite, but that's not necessarily true. As I've said before, I believe the architecture is good a

Re: MIG, examples, docs

2000-04-14 Thread Neal H Walfield
Hi, On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:23:50PM +0200, jr wrote: > Hello, > I'm breaking trough some papers about MIG, and servers writing. > Where can i find mig ? I'd like to see how it produces code. Try http://www.gnu.org/software/devel.html > > questions: all hurd's servers are written with mig's

Re: MIG, examples, docs

2000-04-14 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:23:50PM +0200, jr wrote: > Hello, > I'm breaking trough some papers about MIG, and servers writing. > Where can i find mig ? I'd like to see how it produces code. > > questions: all hurd's servers are written with mig's help? where can i get > description/documentation

Re: Targetting HURD - my two cents.

2000-04-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I realize that I'm talking to one of the "holders of the key", but why do > you say that it is not so? The implicit assumption that I think exists here > is that any change of direction will mean a rewrite, but that's not > necessarily true. Tha

Re: Targetting HURD - my two cents.

2000-04-14 Thread Gerald Gutierrez
>You started with a *particular* change of direction in mind, one that >was explicitly considered, and rejected, long long ago. Real-time OS >design requires very careful ground-up work, and the Hurd servers do >not have any interesting real-time properties. From your narrations I'm not entire