Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-13 Thread Niels Möller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know how to implement ACLs in the Hurd. I imagine there are several somewhat independent parts of that: 1. Storing the acls on disk. The ext2 (or whatever filesystem is used) server has to do that. 2. Enforcing the ACL when making acces

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 02:59:24PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > > I am also saying that those goals ar enot orthogonal. The Hurd is flexible ^^ That should say exclusive Ooops. > > enough to carry both. And, as a last note, the fourthe set of pe

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-02 Thread Ivan Jager
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 05:03:18PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:14:47PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > > > > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > > > > port the ACL patch f

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 02:31:20PM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hmm... I keep reading over and over and I don't see how my idea doesn't > > > work... maybe an example and you can show me where it is flawed. > > > > > > say a file begins wi

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 05:03:18PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:14:47PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > > > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > > > port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Robert Marlow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > Hmm... I keep reading over and over and I don't see how my idea doesn't > > work... maybe an example and you can show me where it is flawed. > > > > say a file begins with the permissions following: > > > > rwxr-xr-xr-x > > > > ie, the last 3 b

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Ivan Jager
Neal H Walfield wrote: > > > > > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > > > > port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/ :) How hard > > > > would that be? > > The issue here is that you have admitted to knowing nothing about either of > them: w

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Neal H Walfield
> > > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > > > port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/ :) How hard > > > would that be? The issue here is that you have admitted to knowing nothing about either of them: who are you then to say what is better

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Ivan Jager
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:14:47PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > > port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/ :) How hard > > would that be? > > Show us. If you mean you want me

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Ivan Jager
To be honest, I just heard about that patch a few days ago. I havn't even tried it yet. I hope is isn't to specific to Linux. Robert Marlow wrote: > Actually I discussed this whole permissions thing with Jim Meyering and > that's what he suggested. I haven't looked further into it yet though. Do

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:14:47PM -0300, Ivan Jager wrote: > IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and > port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/ :) How hard > would that be? Show us. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.deb

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Robert Marlow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Actually I discussed this whole permissions thing with Jim Meyering and that's what he suggested. I haven't looked further into it yet though. Do you know much about ACL? It's a completely new concept to me (actually, this whole thing's new but I gott

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Ivan Jager
IMHO, the best solution would be to drop the last set of permissions and port the ACL patch for Linux from http://acl.bestbits.at/ :) How hard would that be? Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 08:05:38PM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 08:05:38PM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hmm... I keep reading over and over and I don't see how my idea doesn't > work... maybe an example and you can show me where it is flawed. > > say a file begins with the permissio

Re: 4th set of permission bits?

2000-12-01 Thread Robert Marlow
here is something I'm still missing, please show me the counterexample of why what I'm thinking wouldn't work. On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:13:16 +0100 > From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Robert Marlow <[EMAIL P