Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jamie Gennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 11:20, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Well, the reason against this is that translators are really just > > mount points, and existing ls does *not* treat them differently. > > That's true for some translators, but others are used

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-17 Thread Jamie Gennis
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 11:20, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Well, the reason against this is that translators are really just > mount points, and existing ls does *not* treat them differently. That's true for some translators, but others are used more like devices, which does show up in ls output.

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-13 Thread Niels Möller
Ognyan Kulev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Niels Möller wrote: > > By the way, what's a good "ls -F"-indicator character for translators? > > `&' (process), `!' (action), or `?' (oddity)? Perhaps active and > > passive translators should be displayed differently. > > My favorite is `&' -- sounds

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Möller) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > > > Normally (without special flags) you should always follow the > > translator, and you would never see the => syntax. > > What is "special"? ls normally follows symlinks silently, but ls -F > and ls

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-13 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Niels Möller wrote: > By the way, what's a good "ls -F"-indicator character for translators? > `&' (process), `!' (action), or `?' (oddity)? Perhaps active and > passive translators should be displayed differently. My favorite is `&' -- sounds like the file has extra (&, +) functionality/behavio

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-13 Thread Niels Möller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > Normally (without special flags) you should always follow the > translator, and you would never see the => syntax. What is "special"? ls normally follows symlinks silently, but ls -F and ls -l shows some information about symlinks. Are these par

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > If LC_MESSAGE specifics a POSIX locale then the default behaviour should be > whatever POSIX specifics. So I suppose we could default to printing our > specific stuff if it is not a POSIX locale... > > Personally I think it's silly to have two progr

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > > Why is chauth better than chauthor? > > Same reason why we have chown instead of chowner, I guess. But maybe > users would get confused with the auth translator, in that case chauthor > would be a better name. We have chown because the syscall i

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Should this also apply to symlinks? Or should the default behaviour be > > used. > > I think the translator for symlinks shouldn't be shown or it should > be an option. None of the special translators like /hurd/symlink as li

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread marco
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 19:04, you wrote: > * Thomas Bushnell, BSG writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > >> - Print the "unknown permission bits" (what is the official name > >> for this?). > > > > Well, I would say it's the "nobody" bits or maybe the "anonymous" > > user

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 07:37:26PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Yes, Marco Gerards suggested that we could print the PID of the active > translator. But I still have my doubts about this. But yeah, active > translators should be handled in a similar way I think. You can do what fsysopts for

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Marcus Brinkmann writes: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 04:30:36PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: [snip] >> And when I am done with that, I will move to fix GNU sh-utils (id, >> and all that). > Note that we have `ids' in the Hurd. And id is specified by POSIX, > so we have to make sure we only ext

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 04:30:36PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > I am currently working on adding some support for the flags that we support. Way to go, Alfred! > author bit with chown (chown owner:group:author?), and will probably implement > the chauth (I think thats a better name then chau

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: >> - Print the "unknown permission bits" (what is the official name >> for this?). > Well, I would say it's the "nobody" bits or maybe the "anonymous" > user bits or the "no ID" bits. We should figure out one standard

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > - Print the "unknown permission bits" (what is the official name > for this?). Well, I would say it's the "nobody" bits or maybe the "anonymous" user bits or the "no ID" bits. We should figure out one standard name to use. > - Print the aut

Re: nodes have authors

2002-02-12 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG writes: > James Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Taking a brief look at fth.defth it looks like each node can have >> an author, do any tools currently support getting/setting this >> value? > I don't think so. We need a chauthor program for GNU fileutils. Funny th

nodes have authors

2002-02-05 Thread James Morrison
Taking a brief look at fth.defth it looks like each node can have an author, do any tools currently support getting/setting this value? = James Morrison University of Waterloo Computer Science - Digital Hardware 2A co-op http://hurd.dyndns.org Anyone refering this as 'Open Source