Re: [hibernate-dev] [OGM] Requiring Java 7?

2013-10-10 Thread Gunnar Morling
2013/10/9 Emmanuel Bernard > No strong opinion. > To me Java 7 is of little value. Java 8 on the other hand... > :) > > BTW, will we have trouble with servers that do expect Java 6? I suspect > WF is already on 7 so we don't have that problem on that side. > Yes, WF as EE 7 container must "pr

Re: [hibernate-dev] [OGM] Requiring Java 7?

2013-10-10 Thread Gunnar Morling
2013/10/9 Steve Ebersole > What is gained needs to be balanced by what you are giving up. > > OGM itself is new, but at the end of the day its a JPA provider which is > not new. Basing on Java 7 will limit adaption from folks wanting to drop > OGM in to their app as replacement for their JPA pro

Re: [hibernate-dev] [OGM] Requiring Java 7?

2013-10-10 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On 9 Jan 2013, at 4:20 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > OGM itself is new, but at the end of the day its a JPA provider which is > not new. Basing on Java 7 will limit adaption from folks wanting to > drop OGM in to their app as replacement for their JPA provider to give > it a spin in certain en

Re: [hibernate-dev] [OGM] Requiring Java 7?

2013-10-10 Thread Sanne Grinovero
It is a valid point, it might raise the bar but I would be very surprised if the rise would be significant. It's indeed a tradeoff vs. benefits, and as Emmanuel pointed out, the benefits are not significant either, at least in our usage of the new style coding. I proposed to make the switch (was

[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 10

2013-10-10 Thread Steve Ebersole
We actually made use of the topics feature of the bot today :) One got missed by the bot... [11:38] Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.html [11:38] Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenod

Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 10

2013-10-10 Thread Steve Ebersole
Here is the list of proposed topical guides i started: https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/wiki/ProposalTopical-Docs On Thu 10 Oct 2013 11:47:03 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote: > We actually made use of the topics feature of the bot today :) One > got missed by the bot... > > > [11:38