[hibernate-dev] [OGM] JIRA components for backends

2015-05-08 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hi, As we had discussed a while ago, I have created a dedicated JIRA component for each of our backends in OGM. This means we don't have to encode the backend in issue titles anymore. Thanks to Hardy's release script, the component name will be added to issue titles in the change logs. Just make

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-7610 - Embedded and nulls

2015-05-08 Thread Guillaume Smet
OK, done: https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/944 (I just squashed the commits of Laurent into one) This PR is for 4.3 as we originally wrote it for 4.3. I already ported it to 5 but I prefer waiting we have settled everything before submitting the other PR for 5 (the merge requires a

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate Search 5 compatible with Hibernate ORM 4?

2015-05-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
An ANT user on the forums got in trouble several times, first with Lucene versions vs Hibernate Search, then fixed that he upgraded ORM to 5 as well to align with Search 5 only to see Validator blow up at bootstrap. https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1039286 I'm thinking if we should

Re: [hibernate-dev] Removing deprecated methods from Session and SessionFactory

2015-05-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Of course we can delete them, I just meant to stress there should be a different "appropriate moment" for: A] removal of deprecated methods for the sake of it (cleanup of old garbage) B] removal of a method during a major release (API changes allowed) because we can't otherwise get some improveme

Re: [hibernate-dev] Removing deprecated methods from Session and SessionFactory

2015-05-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
I don't know if I agree with this. I'll play the other side... What if you had done the Lucene 4 upgrade and spent a bunch of time managing API changes and finally got it right and then Lucene 4.1 cam along and removed a bunch of deprecated methods? I think I'd actually be a tad more pissed off a

Re: [hibernate-dev] Removing deprecated methods from Session and SessionFactory

2015-05-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 8 May 2015 at 18:33, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I don't know if I agree with this. I'll play the other side... What if you > had done the Lucene 4 upgrade and spent a bunch of time managing API changes > and finally got it right and then Lucene 4.1 cam along and removed a bunch > of deprecated me

Re: [hibernate-dev] Removing deprecated methods from Session and SessionFactory

2015-05-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
Sanne, the methods are already deprecated. You can already do that step. For the deprecated methods that actually have a replacement anyway. But think about the ones that don't. They are the ones that are likely to "still be there" on the API and likely do absolutely nothing. Because if there w

Re: [hibernate-dev] Removing deprecated methods from Session and SessionFactory

2015-05-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Right, seems we agree then; mine is purely a quantitative approach: don't break too much in a single version, but if these have been deprecated already my comment doesn't apply. Sanne On 8 May 2015 at 19:30, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Sanne, the methods are already deprecated. You can already do t