Re: [hibernate-dev] Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?

2020-08-05 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Sure, we can wait to drop Java 8 if you all feel strongly about it, but give my proposal a chance :) Let me address a couple random points: Java version 9 and 10 are not useful versions to support: only 8 and 11 have long term support, so 9 and 10 are already out of support. All surveys I've seen

Re: [hibernate-dev] Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?

2020-07-24 Thread Steve Ebersole
I also think ORM 6 is not the time to do this. Especially moving to Java 11. I think it is worthwhile though to discuss possibly moving to Java 9 to take advantage of multi-release jars as Christian mentioned. But Java 9 has its own set of difficulties for adoption with modules. It is a tough c

Re: [hibernate-dev] Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?

2020-07-24 Thread Yoann Rodiere
Hi, I share Christian's concerns; Hibernate Search 6 is already a huge change for users, so I'm not sure reducing our potential user base even further by requiring JDK11 is a good idea. I don't have numbers, but from my understanding a lot of people are still on JDK8, be it only because of the wh

Re: [hibernate-dev] Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?

2020-07-24 Thread Christian Beikov
Hey, I'm not sure it is a good idea to do this for Hibernate ORM 6 already as that would probably hinder adoption. Some projects just didn't update to Java 9+ yet because using the newer versions would have no real benefit. We can use the Multi-Release JAR feature to make use of JDK features i

[hibernate-dev] Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?

2020-07-24 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi all, [meta: I had this email as a draft on hold since a year; very glad to finally be able to send it.] We're usually quite conservative in dropping support for older JDKs within the Hibernate team, but there's an increasing maintenance (and development) cost when keeping older JDK compatibili