Re: [Hibernate] do we need a define?

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Xiaogang Cao wrote: currently there is , but no ? -- Christian Bauer +49 171 455 66 53 callto://christian-bauer Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jboss.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Pr

[Hibernate] do we need a define?

2004-12-23 Thread Xiaogang Cao
currently there is , but no ? in table-per-class-hierarchy model we can define subclass inside parent class with different discriminator-values, but it's more nature in OO design that 'extend' a class, that means parent class do not need to know how many subclasses have been added. for example,

[Hibernate] Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: sorry, cannot find a quick-start-guide. [btw: your message appears outside of the thread] OK, this is enough. Please don't feed the troll. Which statement exactly of the above two has caused you to write this ungentle comment? You confirm my statement

[Hibernate] FYI

2004-12-23 Thread Gavin King
I have removed Ilias Lazaridis from the list. -- Gavin King +61 410 534 454 +1 404 822 8349 callto://gavinking Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jboss.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Pro

Re: [Hibernate] Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: sorry, cannot find a quick-start-guide. [btw: your message appears outside of the thread] OK, this is enough. Please don't feed the troll. This "Illiad" is picking any target and tries to start a flame war, not only here. A quick search on Google Groups shows several thread

[Hibernate] Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Max Andersen wrote: want to start in 10 min ? Then take the quick start guide...available from the hibernate.org documentation site as the first link. sorry, cannot find a quick-start-guide. [btw: your message appears outside of the thread] . -- http://lazaridis.com -

[Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I don't find the information Can you please comment inline, possibly with some pointers? Your effort can be reused, to allow a 1h hibernate quick-start (i will write it, but please provide me the relevant pointers/information). We have about 20 tutoria

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Those details are not relevant to me. But they are to us and about 10.000 other active users. The [forum-usage] details were adressed to me. We managed to maintain and organize this project and our daily work for some years. You've managed to setup a

SV: [Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Max Andersen
want to start in 10 min ?   Then take the quick start guide...available from the hibernate.org documentation site as the first link.   /max

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Those details are not relevant to me. But they are to us and about 10.000 other active users. We managed to maintain and organize this project and our daily work for some years. We listen to comments but you should rethink your attitude if you'd like to be heard. Again: P

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I don't find the information Can you please comment inline, possibly with some pointers? Your effort can be reused, to allow a 1h hibernate quick-start (i will write it, but please provide me the relevant pointers/information). We have about 20 tutorials, from 5 minutes to 5

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Ebersole wrote: [moved down] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hibernate-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ilias Lazaridis Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:44 PM To: hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user

[Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: To simplify the evaluation of ORM tools, I've documented a fictive one: http://lazaridis.com/case/orm/index.html Which of the described constructs are supported within the hibernate product/project? www.hibernate.org and click on "About" I don't find t

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: And its unprofessional. Please use one of our competitors products and complain there. Sounds very professional, too. "If you don't like it, go away" This is a developer mailing list. Yes, and I ask the inpolite developers of this group to be more professional. Please deve

[Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:40:39 +0200, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To simplify the evaluation of ORM tools, I've documented a fictive one: http://lazaridis.com/case/orm/index.html Which of the described constructs are supported within the hibernate produc

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi guys, For you info, you can activate mail notification on the forum so you will get a notification each time there is something - and then you click on a link and you are there ,) I don't want this information. I just want to use my standard email-client to get acces

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Joshua Davis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Who do you think you are that you force users to use a non-standard access method to your forums? IMHO, most user forums for popular open source products like Hibernate have too much traffic to be useful. The forums are much more organized than a mail

RE: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Steve Ebersole
I think you might want to reconsider the perspective of the phrase "you are rude". Telling people what they should/should not do sure seems awfully rude to me! So are you volunteering to setup/host/administer the NNTP server? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hiberna

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Who defines "easier" and "everyone" in the given rationale? I do I see. Are you aware that your definition is faulty? Not everyone feels that those html forum is easier. Is there any special reason that you can ignore needs of the userbase whilst defining resources as you w

[Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Christian Bauer wrote: Barnes, Michael wrote: Thanks for listening to my rants. This project from a users prospective has been the hardest to follow since I can not have email sent to me as the list changes. There is a post notification feature on our forum, enable it. Please stop complaining, w

Re: [Hibernate] Tiny fix for hbm2java

2004-12-23 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:32:24 +0100, Xavier Poinsard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thank you - please put it into JIRA /max Hi, The following tiny fix solves a problem preventing the use of java primitives for composite ids, since composite ids elements are supposed to be always not null, there

[Hibernate] Tiny fix for hbm2java

2004-12-23 Thread Xavier Poinsard
Hi, The following tiny fix solves a problem preventing the use of java primitives for composite ids, since composite ids elements are supposed to be always not null, there is no way to tell they are not-null, but the generator was forgiving it. --- /home/xpoinsar/workspace/hibernate-tools/src/

[Hibernate] concat again

2004-12-23 Thread Alexey Loubyansky
I am still having issues with this test. If I define concat template for HSQL as concat(?1 || ?2) the test passes. But this template is wrong. Unexpected token in statement [select * from Animal where description = concat('1' || '2')] java.sql.SQLException: Unexpected token in statement [select *

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Joshua Davis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Who do you think you are that you force users to use a non-standard access method to your forums? IMHO, most user forums for popular open source products like Hibernate have too much traffic to be useful. The forums are much more organized than a mailing list, which allo

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
And its unprofessional. Please use one of our competitors products and complain there. This is a developer mailing list. Thank you -- Christian Bauer +49 171 455 66 53 callto://christian-bauer Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jboss.com --

Re: [Hibernate] [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: To simplify the evaluation of ORM tools, I've documented a fictive one: http://lazaridis.com/case/orm/index.html Which of the described constructs are supported within the hibernate product/project? www.hibernate.org and click on "About" -- Christian Bauer +49 171 455 66 53

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Barnes, Michael wrote: Thanks for listening to my rants. This project from a users prospective has been the hardest to follow since I can not have email sent to me as the list changes. There is a post notification feature on our forum, enable it. Please stop complaining, we need the forum to help

Re: [Hibernate] Re: [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum

2004-12-23 Thread Christian Bauer
Who defines "easier" and "everyone" in the given rationale? I do Is there an user mailinglist available? No -- Christian Bauer +49 171 455 66 53 callto://christian-bauer Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jboss.com --