[Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
don't know if this got through but just got yet another "mail delivery failure" for it...so here it goes again ;) Gavin King wrote: * Support for JSR-175 annotations (Emmanuel) JSR-175 is the new metadata in the core java language right ? Then is that not something xdoclet will take care of ev

[Hibernate] Roadmap

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Ebersole
Now that 3.2.0.ga is imminent, here are the things which are currently underway, or which I would like to start soon: 1) Antlr query translator redesign. The original Antlr-based translator was a great first cut and showed us the usefulness of Antlr for this task; in many ways it ways a learning

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
>> * Support for JSR-175 annotations (Emmanuel) > > > JSR-175 is the new metadata in the core java language right ? > Then is that not something xdoclet will take care of eventually or > do you have something else in mind ? > Here is the idea. I don't know how and when xdoclet will embrace JSR 175

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Michael Gloegl
Hi, JSR-175 is the new metadata in the core java language right ? Then is that not something xdoclet will take care of eventually or do you have something else in mind ? Here is the idea. I don't know how and when xdoclet will embrace JSR 175 but I can imagin they will stay stucked with (pre)compi

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
> eg. metadata > would be a replacement for mapping files - which I thing would be rather > cool. > > Michael Not replacement, user will have the choice (either .hbm.xml or JSR-175) --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Bu

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
Michael Gloegl wrote: Hi, JSR-175 is the new metadata in the core java language right ? Then is that not something xdoclet will take care of eventually or do you have something else in mind ? Here is the idea. I don't know how and when xdoclet will embrace JSR 175 but I can imagin they will stay

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
Actually I don't think using JSR-175 metadata in XDoclet will be so easy, because to use the Metadata-API you need the compiled class files and compiling the class files is often not possible without running XDoclet before (not for Hibernate but easily for EJBs for example). So i really think

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
> >>> >>> Actually I don't think using JSR-175 metadata in XDoclet will be so >>> easy, because to use the Metadata-API you need the compiled class >>> files and compiling the class files is often not possible without >>> running XDoclet before (not for Hibernate but easily for EJBs for >>> example

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Gavin King
* Support for JSR-175 annotations (Emmanuel) JSR-175 is the new metadata in the core java language right ? Then is that not something xdoclet will take care of eventually or do you have something else in mind ? Correct. JSR175 is a better fit to what we want because we don't actually need code

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-15 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
It will just be built underneath existing functionality like delete(query) and orphan delete. It will support all Hibernate semantics. So this: session.delete("from Foo foo where foo.name like 'foo'") will cause two queries: SELECT ... FROM FOO WHERE NAME LIKE 'foo' DELETE FROM FOO WHERE NAME

RE: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-16 Thread Ara Abrahamian
> > It will just be built underneath existing functionality like > > delete(query) and orphan delete. It will support all > > Hibernate semantics. So this: > > > > session.delete("from Foo foo where foo.name like 'foo'") > > > > will cause two queries: > > > > SELECT ... FROM FOO WHERE NAME LIKE 'f

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-16 Thread Gavin King
Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > ok - so instead of deleting one at the time, we batch delete, but still call all the lifecycle stuff ? > (but isn't the users just going to ask for a quick batch delete instead then (to avoid the possible expensive delete ? ;) I'm sure they will /ask/. -- Gavin

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap...

2004-02-16 Thread Gavin King
Ara Abrahamian wrote: And this will take into account cascade=all|delete too? My bad, when I wrote "orphan delete", I meant to say "casade delete". It would not work for orphan delete. -- Gavin King JBoss Group +61 410534454 http://hibernate.org

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap

2006-07-17 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
> 1) Antlr query translator redesign. The original Antlr-based translator > was a great first cut and showed us the usefulness of Antlr for this > task; in many ways it ways a learning experience. Now, it is time to > take those experiences and redesign how the translator works in a few > areas

[Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Ebersole
Regarding the component related changes mentioned in the previous email... As I mentioned a lot of the pre-requisite work has already been performed on HEAD. I also took the opportunity to refactor the packaging of the org.hibernate.tuple package. Specifically, most of the pre-requisite work was

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Ebersole
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:50 AM To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap > 1) Antlr query translator redesign. The original Antlr-based translator > was a great first cut and showed us the usefulness of Antlr for this > task; in many ways it w

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap

2006-07-17 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
since the sf-level control of bytecode gen would be good (but i don't know if it is critical-critical?) > > -Original Message- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:50 AM > To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap &

[Hibernate] Roadmap - HQL

2006-07-21 Thread Steve Ebersole
Regarding the HQL translator related changes mentioned in the previous email... Mainly, this is involving a fairly large scale refactoring of the Antlr grammars and the associated code. The first aspect was previously discussed on this list, so I won't go into all the gory details. Basically, th

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
...but requires changes to public API so probably best suited for 3.3. > Regarding the component related changes mentioned in the previous > email... > > As I mentioned a lot of the pre-requisite work has already been > performed on HEAD. I also took the opportunity to refactor the > packaging of

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Ebersole
Type is *NOT* a public API... -Original Message- From: Max Andersen Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:38 AM To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components ...but requires changes to public API so probably best suited for 3.3. > Regarding

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
38 AM > To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components > > ...but requires changes to public API so probably best suited for 3.3. > >> Regarding the component related changes mentioned in the previous >> email... >> >>

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Ebersole
the underlying Type system... -Original Message- From: Max Andersen Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:43 AM To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:41:25 +0200, Steve Ebersole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typ

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-17 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
insulate the user > from changes in the underlying Type system... > > -Original Message- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:43 AM > To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components > > On Mon, 17

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
17, 2006 10:51 AM To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components point taken. > Well Type and UserType do not necessarily need to be in synch in this > particular regard. We could conceivably change Type and then later > (i.e. as part of a major

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-24 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
d we somehow allow both possibilities for the sake of compability ? And I know Christian will "love" us for changing this so close to the book release ;) /max > -Original Message- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:51 AM > To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-25 Thread Steve Ebersole
lso get in here) Could we somehow allow both possibilities for the sake of compability ? And I know Christian will "love" us for changing this so close to the book release ;) /max > -Original Message- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:51

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-25 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
Another is > PropertyAccessors. Yet another is ComponentTuplizers. > > -Original Message- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:18 AM > To: Steve Ebersole; Hibernate development > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components > > >> So that

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components

2006-07-25 Thread Steve Ebersole
- From: Max Andersen Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:35 PM To: Steve Ebersole Cc: Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - components Regarding handling users migration of code then I guess (one of) the worst parts is where users have query/criteria building code that does not hav

Re: [Hibernate] Roadmap - HQL

2006-08-08 Thread Stefan Fleiter
Hi, I am jumping in lately but the discussion about a new ANTLR translator is very interesting to me. > The first aspect was previously discussed on this list, so I won't go > into all the gory details. Basically, the current Antlr-based > translator translates an HQL query in 3 phases where eac