Hi all,

A while back I asked you about how to successfully perform Jones' Methenamine 
Silver (JMS) stain on formalin-fixed paraffin-embedded pig kidneys, and your 
suggestions to use Thiosemicarbazide (TSC) after oxidation with Periodic Acid 
solved my issue with the silver solution instability (since the slides didn't 
have to sit in there for too long) and it yielded great results. I have now 
been asked to generate a protocol (for my research histology/pathology lab 
specializing in animal tissues) for Grocott's Methenamine Silver (GMS) for 
Fungi, and while I plan on more-or-less following the protocol from Rowley 
Biochemical 
(https://rowleybiochem.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/A-121-Grocotts-Method-GMS-for-Fungi.pdf),
 I have a couple of questions for you:


  1.  Will TSC work after oxidation with Chromic Acid (Rowley says to use 
Chromic Acid)?
  2.  If TSC won't work after Chromic Acid, can I oxidize using Periodic Acid 
and then use TSC as I did for JMS? I found one article/abstract 
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25861133/) that says that it's possible to use 
heated Periodic Acid, but most other sources indicate that I should use Chromic 
Acid.
  3.  Can I use the same silver solution reagents and mixing procedure as I did 
in JMS (I already have these in the lab and already know that they work, so 
ideally I wouldn't have to deviate from my JMS protocol)?
     *   For JMS (mostly taken from Rowley's protocol), I made up and filtered 
the silver solution immediately before use by mixing:

                                                               i.      170 ml 
Methenamine 3% (Rowley; F-396-2)

                                                             ii.      10 ml 
Silver Nitrate, 5% (Rowley; F-396-3) and

                                                           iii.      48 ml 
Borate Buffer, pH 8.2 (Rowley; F-396-4).

     *   Rowley says that for GMS, I should:

                                                               i.      First, 
prepare Methenamine-Silver Nitrate Stock:

           *   Silver Nitrate, 5%, Aq. (Rowley; A-121-3A) - 5ml
           *   Methenamine, 3%, Aq. (Rowley; A-121-3B) - 100ml

                                                             ii.      Use 
chemically clean glassware. Store in refrigerator.

                                                           iii.      Then, to 
prepare Methenamine-Silver Nitrate Working, mix just prior to use:

           *   Methenamine Silver Nitrate Stock - 25.0ml
           *   Distilled Water - 25.0ml
           *   Sodium Borate, 5%, Aq. (Rowley; A-121-2) - 2.0ml

I am certainly open to any general advice that you have for GMS as well.

Thank you!

Jordan H.
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI
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