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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project
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VC 6.0
I don't think I can affort to buy the .NET IDE at this time, especially since
I will have to upgrade my computer just to play HL2. Please keep some support
for VC 6.
Thanks!
Alfred Reynolds wrote:
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many
I use VS.NET 2003 (7.1) Enterprise Edition
And in regards to the .NET project files, someone could do a search on
SlingShot - supposedly this little tool should be able to convert the
project files to nmake makefiles.
I haven't tried it so I can't say if it works... sry
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Ruari O'Sullivan wrote:
VC++ 6.0 here, though if the whole SDK compiled for windows under gcc
(say mingw) that'd be cool too.
Heh-heh
Carr wrote:
omg it will :| ? oh and im using vc++ 6 here :'(
john
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XML + PHP
Fill-in-the-blank style, against templates, automagically.
Oh yeah, feel the love. ;)
(This idea is slightly less serious than the previous suggestion I just
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MSVC .NET 2003, Academic and Professional (don't ask :p)
From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:34:26 -0700
I just want to do
to use later versions of GCC.
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sorry but who gives a crap about
I use cygwin, that include a X client and command line tools (CVS, Bash,
gcc, etc..). For developers: 90% you can't do with bash, cat and grep
can be done with a Perl script. And If you really want linux, you can
install coLinux on a usb pen, a lot faster than pvpm.metropipe.net linux.
Red Hat
Florian:
fluxbox with gnome-panel.
my ~/.xinitrc looks like this:
snip
Esetroot /path_to_a_groovy_wallpaper.ext
fluxbox
gnome-panel
/snip
(note: leave off the on the last item, or X will mysteriously die,
because the last program can't exit. fluxbox loves to have it's )
(huggles gentoo)
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
- Alfred
Alfred, I'd rather see you guys release the SDK as soon as possible, even if
it only
GCC is _not_ old.GCC is used more often than VC. it's free, and is
continually improving.
A basic makefile for those of us running cygwin envs, linux, and the
BSDs is not that difficult, right?
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:45:32 -0500, SB Childe Roland
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I'm with him. The
Andrew Foss wrote:
GCC is _not_ old.GCC is used more often than VC. it's free, and is
continually improving.
A basic makefile for those of us running cygwin envs, linux, and the
BSDs is not that difficult, right?
What? I think you're replying to the wrong message. There was nothing
in
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
- Alfred
then what would you call this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/
so i
Remember even Counter-Strike beta 1 , and some other cool MP mods were
released faster than that for HL1 if i remember correctly.
Now HL2 is a more complicated engine and may take longer to build stuff for,
but on the other hands:
Valve has stated that hl2 is actually more friendly to modding,
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
- Alfred
then what would
VC 6 here ..
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:34:26 -0700, Alfred Reynolds
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
-
GCC3 :)
Hasan Aljudy wrote:
VC 6 here ..
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:34:26 -0700, Alfred Reynolds
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project
: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:08 PM
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For the 4 millionth time, that is just the compiler. It can not read the
project files. The IDE does that and you have to pay for the IDE.
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I'm usin' VC++ 6 right now, but from what I've heard about .NET, I
think it will be worth the upgrade, so I'll upgrade as soon as my
monetary situation allows. (Which will most likely be before the SDK
is released, at this rate.)
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:30:11 -0700 (PDT), Brian A. Stumm
[EMAIL
Alfred Reynolds wrote:
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
/me raises hand. VC6 here.
Do you have any dependencies to MSVC.NET or MSVC in
Alfred Reynolds wrote:
Linux will require GCC 3.4.1 and libc 2.3 and above (actually GCC 3.3
should be okay).
I know you use 3.4 but do you really require 3.4 for everyone who
uses the SDK or are you sure that 3.3 works, too. There are still
some ugly bugs left in 3.4.1 which will prevent people
Childe Roland wrote:
[...] I'll upgrade as soon as my
monetary situation allows. (Which will most likely be before the SDK
is released, at this rate.)
Does your job pay that well, then? :)
Florian
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Actually, I don't even have a job right now. ;-) Full time student
with NO income.
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:29:36 +0200, Florian Zschocke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Childe Roland wrote:
[...] I'll upgrade as soon as my
monetary situation allows. (Which will most likely be before the SDK
I'm lucky, being a computer science student at Arizona State uni I can get
VS 6, VS Net 02 and VS Net 03 for free (full ver from microsoft). I should
upgrade my net 02 to 03 but I'm too lazy to get it :)
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I have just VC6.
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many
Basicly same deal hear. Got 6, .net 2002, .net 2003 :)
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I'm lucky, being
VC .NET 2002 :D
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:19:37 +1300, Henry Malthus
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I only have VC++ Express 2005 installed at the moment, but I can get
2k3 from uni early next year.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:34:26 -0700, Alfred Reynolds
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I just want to do a
://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many
you think I'm joking? ;)
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
Matt Judge wrote:
ROFL
Bruce Bahamut Andrews wrote:
or a guy? *pulls $60 out of his wallet*
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
SB Childe Roland wrote:
That also means, that I can get the professional version with an
academic liscense for around $60.
Now, I
Peter Holcroft wrote:
Most of the HL coders I know are using .net 2003, I am surprised at the
number of VC6 users. Perhaps it's simply because the bare SDK gives fewer
problems for VC6 rather than the cost?
Perhaps MSVS.NET is rather costly and not everybody can afford it,
so they stay with their
October 2004 16:36
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I'm currently using the visual studio 2005 beta until I can sort out my
academic license for VS.net. Any word on 2005 support?
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Peter Holcroft wrote:
Most of the HL coders I know are using .net 2003, I am surprised at
the number of VC6 users. Perhaps it's simply because the bare SDK
gives fewer problems for VC6 rather than the cost?
Perhaps MSVS.NET is rather costly
from notepad and
the commandline. I believe...
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Peter Holcroft
Because he wants to use some of the advanced technological improvements
that .NET has...
Didn't he say that already? :/
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
David Leinbach wrote:
I prefer VC6 but I have VC.NET as well.
Question though, since VC.NET can convery from VC6 projects, why not
include VC6 projects
Unless I missed an e-mail in the thread, Alfred only said that it
needs GCC 3.4.x because we require some of its advanced template
support and also its better processor support
From Alfred's original e-mail it sounded like it should be compilable
on other versions of MSVC but that they didn't
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 07:34:26PM -0700, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
- Alfred
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Because he wants to use some of the advanced technological improvements
that .NET has...
Because MSVC .NET handles templates and other things in *ANSI-Compliant*
fashion
and MSVC 6 does not,
I still use Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 for my mod.
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 07:34:26PM -0700, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK
omg it will :| ? oh and im using vc++ 6 here :'(
john
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Ruari
You will need to use HL2. VGUI2 will not be released for HL1.
- Alfred
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:17:14PM -0700, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
You will need to use HL2. VGUI2 will not be released for HL1.
- Alfred
This implies that Valve will not support mod development in Half-Life 1
anymore. So, if The Specialists decides that graphics and physics will
not contribute
Jorge Rodriguez wrote:
If Half-Life 2 is gold and VGUI2 is part of HL2 and thus the HL2SDK,
and if the technology is stable enough to include in the most popular
online game of all time, then I personally see no reason not to allow
mod developers to use it in HL1. Otherwise, Valve is shrinking
Scott Tuttle wrote:
Umm compiler for vs.net is free. You can compile and code from notepad and
the commandline. I believe...
And why would people want to compile and code from notepad and the
commandline if they have a nice VC6 GUI that just works for them? :)
Florian
Brian A. Stumm wrote:
Oh I use this really fancy window manager, its kind of a black screen with
a white blinkey line in the upper left corner of the screen...
Riiight. And Alfred calls *me* living in the past. =)
Or you're just running Linux servers but don't use it on your
desktop...
Florian
or you could setup a custom build in VC6 to use a batch file that builds the
files using the vs.net compile tools
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:46:20
system).
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Scott Tuttle wrote:
Umm compiler for vs.net is free. You can
Steven Guy wrote:
or you could setup a custom build in VC6 to use a batch file that
builds the
files using the vs.net compile tools
...and give up debugging functionality in the process.
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Scott Tuttle wrote:
If you want to continue to use VC6 I have no problem with that. Was just
answering the question of why someone would want to use vs.net when it cost
more money. When in fact it doesn't. No dev environment but hey... that's
secondary to the fact its free (other than having
I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only release MSVC.NET project files with the SDK)?
- Alfred
I have
Cough.
gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 (cygwin special)
From what I'm seeing, you're implying totally leaving Linux (GCC, et al) in
the dust. Am I hallucinating?
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:34:26 -0700, Alfred Reynolds
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many people on this list
DON'T have access to MSVC.NET or above for their MOD development (we
hope to only
Jeff,
The Academic version of VS.NET is reasonably priced - if you're not
developing for commercial purposes, its quite a good buy.
Michael
Your assumption is that I qualify for the Academic version, I do not.
You don't have to be a student to be pov :(
Jeff.
Of
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Cough.
gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 (cygwin special)
From what I'm seeing, you're implying totally leaving Linux (GCC, et
al) in the dust. Am I hallucinating
: [hlcoders] What MSVC
version do you use/have?
And, you cannot redistribute your binaries (AFAIK), except for
educational purposes. So I seem to remember from a VC 6 Student
Edition. I could be mistaken, but that's the impression I recall.
And Alfred; thanks.
While the most generally accepted
good GCC support would be nice.
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hope to only release MSVC.NET project files
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And, you cannot redistribute your binaries (AFAIK), except for educational
purposes. So I seem
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MSVC.NET 02 and MSVC 6
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I just want to do a quick straw poll of how many
Visual Studio .Net 2003 in use here.
Dave R. Meyers
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