Re: [hlds] The policy of truth is still in effect

2012-01-24 Thread Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald
Hi Fletcher, One thing I used to do, but stopped in case it might cause problems in the future, was manipulate queries to players who were deemed to have reserved slots (by storing their IP addresses, and then modifying the query sent to those addresses). What I did was simply increase the m

Re: [hlds] The policy of truth is still in effect

2012-01-24 Thread wm
Very good stuff Fletcher and team! Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Eli Witt Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:18:07 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list

Re: [hlds] The policy of truth is still in effect

2012-01-24 Thread Eli Witt
Keep up the good work Fletch! On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: > Yesterday the Team Fortress team took further action pursuant to the > “policy of truth” that was announced in December of last year. We delisted > some servers that were reporting inaccurate information in >

[hlds] The policy of truth is still in effect

2012-01-24 Thread Fletcher Dunn
Yesterday the Team Fortress team took further action pursuant to the "policy of truth" that was announced in December of last year. We delisted some servers that were reporting inaccurate information in server-browser-related communications. Our goals are for players to be able to find the ser

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Ryan Stecker
That's be great if it was accessible. Because currently, if you really needed to get at a client's steamid you'd have to go through roundabout methods of either performing an "add friend" search or simulating a fake connection to the server in order to get Steam to send down persona information. (W

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Fletcher Dunn
Well, I do have it on my list to update the players query. The client currently just trusts the data it receives from the server --- and we all know that sometimes servers report inaccurate information. The client could confirm the information with the Steam backend. And I’d like to add info

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Mike @ BOOM!
Chad: Thank you for the wiki info, it was very interesting. From reading it, it's almost like my server's heartbeat stops so the master server drops it from the list and only running the HLDSUpdatetool or overwriting the InstallRecord.blob file with a newer one makes it start beating again. Weird.

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Ryan Stecker
Fletch, if server player queries are going to go through Steam in the near future, is it possible to provide the SteamID of clients on servers in addition to their name, score, and time played? That would make it particularly useful for any tools that want to get at more details about the players

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Fletcher Dunn
Cud I have rittened any moar typoess in that poste? Don't read that. Read this: It's probably our fault. I suspect it's simply that your servers are not getting notified about an update, and so they aren't listed because they are out-of-date. The out-of-date notification isn't working right

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Fletcher Dunn
It's probably our fault. I suspect it's simply that your servers are simply not getting notified about an update, and so they aren't listed because they are out-of-date. The out-of-date notification isn't working right now. We will have it resolved in a future update with a future steam clien

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread chad.hedst...@gmail.com
Luckily Valve keeps an incredibly detailed wiki about these sorts of things. This isn't the exact link but it should point you in the right direction. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Master_Server_Query_Protocol#Game_server_to_master_server Also please keep in mind when using language

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Mike @ BOOM!
Thank you for the reply dontwannaname. I'm unfamiliar with this "master server list ini ", but from what I'm reading into your statement; are you saying that if Valve changes or takes one of it's servers offline , a game server could potentially stop being listed in the master server list beca

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Mike @ BOOM!
Will do on the IP check. _ From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of hlds Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:59 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread hlds
When one of your servers is "delisted" please check the output of status command. See if the displayed public IP is the expected one. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike @ BOOM! Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:38 AM To: 'Ha

Re: [hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread DontWannaName!
Is your master server list ini up to date? You could try deleting the directories that aren't in the tf folder. The only thing that's there that matters is the sv pure white list. Then you can dl a fresh copy of those steam files from the tool. Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:38 AM

[hlds] TF2 Servers Randomly Drop Off Master Server List - WHY?

2012-01-24 Thread Mike @ BOOM!
Fellow Server Operators and Valve Readers, I have gotten into the habit of checking my TF2 servers to make sure they are appearing in the Valve master server list because about every week or so they just stop showing up and my player counts fall through the floor. At least one or more of my serve