By the sounds of it the abuse that has come up heavily outweigh any
benefits of -textmode.

I'm not sure exactly what information you are 'seeding' but I'm sure there
are multiple addons/plugins/tools to help you accomplish something similar.
If it is just chat, you could simply download HLSW <http://www.hlsw.org/>
and tune in with RCON. If you wanted to log chat to a database or do
something more extensive, this could be accomplished using sourcemod
plugins. I'm sure you could find some kind of plugin out there to help
accomplish whatever you are looking for. There are thousands of plugins out
there...

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:00 PM HD <ad...@gamerscrib.net> wrote:

> Regardless I used -textmode for specific reasons not to abuse any type of
> system. I disagree with this change and as I said I don't expect Valve to
> reply to any of these complaints as they haven't others in the past.  I
> guess I'll have to launch the client regularly - alt tab it down and leave
> it like that to help seed and listen to whats being said when I'm not in
> there.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
>
> You may have used it for one client but the truth is, this guy earlier who
> posted used it to ten, even more clients. Also i think someone already has
> a
> script that can be ran in textmode that autoaccepts the items that drop. So
> no more manual accept and idling can continue. I'm not 100% sure about
> this,
> i just heard about it few months back.
>
> Play the game, run the servers, don't mix clients and players. Thanks.
>
> -ics
>
> HD kirjoitti:
> >
> > I used it to log ONE client in so I could seed with it and hear what
> > was going on in the server. Additionally it was nice to see on my
> > screen at home what was going on thru the console too vs remote
> > desktop into the server. I can't speak for everyone else but even
> > still a REAL CLIENT is a real client.not Fake player counts.
> > Regardless of how many you log in if they are REAL clients which they
> > were then I don't see the issue with that at all. That is much
> > different then coding in fake clients showing up or fake numbers for
> > server population.
> >
> > Either way this is just stupid and pointless to argue since we won't
> > hear a damn word from Valve on this or anything else when it comes to
> > Servers with this game. I'm kinda sick of it and damn near ready to
> > say the hell with it all and their games.
> >
> > *From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Kyle
> > Sanderson
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:04 AM
> > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
> >
> > Just so we're clear, you guys were only using this to fake player
> > counts on your servers? Where's the negative impact here? This sounds
> > like a much needed change to prevent scumbaggery.
> >
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On 13 Oct 2015 6:14 a.m., "N-Gon" <ngongamedes...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:ngongamedes...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Back when I ran servers I used to use Sandboxie and a bunch of
> > accounts in textmode to help populate my servers.
> >
> > It's a struggle when you don't have a well known community, I feel bad
> > for the folks who've just been hurt by this change.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:45 AM, HD <ad...@gamerscrib.net
> > <mailto:ad...@gamerscrib.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Yea I saw it last night... this is beyond a wasteful change. I use it
> > for a client so I can listen in a server without using a bunch of
> > resources.
> > Why was this change made and what alternative do you have besides
> > launching the game in full and alt tabbing now.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] On Behalf Of Rudy
> > Bleeker
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:02 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
> >
> > From the client patch notes from October 12, 2015:
> >
> > - Running in textmode now places the client in insecure mode
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:50 AM, HD <ad...@gamerscrib.net
> > <mailto:ad...@gamerscrib.net>> wrote:
> > > Anyone else having issues now using a client into their servers
> > > using -textmode for launch options? I log in an account this way
> > > every so often to "listen" in the server while reading chat but for
> > > some reason now I get the "You are in insecure mode. You must
> > > restart before you can connect to secure servers.".
> > >
> > > I've not changed nothing - not a single thing and it just started
> > > after last nights update came out. I've reinstalled TF2 on that
> > > computer but nothing has changed.
> > > I'm convinced something got messed up from this update as I tried it
> > > on another computer and it did the exact same thing.
> > >
> > > Anyone able to explain this?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
> > > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:52 PM
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>;
> > hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > <mailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > Subject: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
> > >
> > > We've released an optional update for TF2 that updates the Invasion
> > > Community Update Coin to also count assists. This is an optional
> > > dedicated server update and is not required unless you are running
> > > any of the Invasion maps and would like to support this new feature.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
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