I do not use hacks and never have but, I did notice that when CZ first came out my scores went way up. Now I'm back at the levels when I played 1.6(1 to 1 ratio).
My son, when he comes over and visits, we play in the same server/map as I do and we play literally side by side (computers next to each other) and on the same team. That hack is the best of all! Not detectable and you can see everything going on. We have tried that only 2 or 3 times. Was a lot of fun! Peter -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guido Rainuzzo Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC Update? Well, i always thought about posting about this (months ago) and now i will share what i have to say, I will not lie, but i have cheated before. But, the world changes, so as cheats. I host a superhero server, and sometimes it takes hours if people hack, i have been begging for a VAC update, but one day i figured out that the cheats are going to evolve just as VAC does. Then one day i got my steam id banned after an update ( i am not a smart cheater ) Well, i got a copy of counter-strike, and played, and as time went by, everyone started to notice the increasement of people hacking, and hacking, and hacking. One day i decide to install skins in my cs, and i get my steam id banned, i buy a copy of CZ just for the CS:Source and i play again. I have quit playing cs. There are too many cheaters. And that about people getting banned because they're just good, it happened to me once and only once and its probably going to be my only one. Also, i dont think that 3/4 of the cs population cheats, i think it is much less then 1/3 , but what i do know is that it is increasing. I hope the people at Valve are reading these posts, we really , really , need an update. A reason in the increasements is the shut down of WON, i do believe that at least 3/4 of the cs population in WON did cheat, but a big reason that there's more cheaters in 1.6 servers is the 1.5ers moving on. Someone here said that he had to go into at least 5 different servers for there not to be any blatant cheaters, i think your exagerating a little bit there. But then again, your could be not exagerating if you went into an insecure server, which i do not see any point into going in one of those unleess you have your steam id banned. Well, that's what i think, but we should push valve for an update, stand up for the non-cheating cs-community. - Guido Rainuzzo ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > Spart my friend I was talking about secure servers. > This MyGOT thing is real bad right now. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spartibus > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > > > When I want to play I go thru 5 servers before I find one w/o Blatant > hackers. > > That's complete BS. I pub at least once a day, and NEVER (and I mean EVER, > not even in 1.3) did I go into more than 2 pubs in succession that had > blatant cheaters in them. > > Your assumptions are BS as well. 3/4 of the entire CS population, cheaters? > It's FAR, FAR less than that. You are exaggerating pretty much everything > you say. > > The only possible way I can see you going into 5 servers and having a > **BLATANT** hacker in every one of them is if you join ONLY insecure > servers. Why? Because insecure servers basically allow any and every cheat > to work (and at full potential), period. > > You probably don't know this because you've never used cheats before, but > VAC SEVERELY limits what cheats can do. I've used cheats before (hah), and > let me tell you the difference. > > Insecure Servers: You can practically see people from spawn to spawn > (wallhack), people are always on screen. > > Secure Servers: A lot of times the only time you see someone behind a wall > is if you see them out in the open first, and then go behind the wall. Other > times you have to rely on them making noise or moving a lot in order to be > seen behind the wall. Also, you usually can't see them from that far away, > and the cheats are limited hugely by this (obviously it's still an insanely > huge advantage, though). > > VAC has more purposes than just catching people cheating, it serves as a > wallhack block as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > > Yes you are. > Right now Hackers rule just about any server they want. > > Secure servers too. > > Most who use hacks are obvious and get banned. > It's the stealth hackers. The ones who are good at not getting caught. > The wall hacks and aim bots. > > > When I want to play I go thru 5 servers before I find one w/o Blatant > hackers. > > It's really bad right now. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > > > > > > Lets face it .... VAC has been a total washout. > > Each VAC update we get gives us four hours of no cheating ... That's > it. > > Valve does not have the programming resources to keep up with the > > hackers who write this stuff for free. > > > > All of the anti cheat detections have failed ... The hackers have won. > > > > Wait a minute...am I wrong, or doesn't VAC ban cheaters for one year? If > this is true, then the cheaters are always being weeded out, right? Even > when the script kiddies find new cheats not yet detected by VAC, they're > still banned. 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