Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread AnAkIn .
;>>>> the client. Everything you just listed can easily be intercepted at >>>>>> runtime, >>>>>> and dynamic spoofed values given. Also, you aren't allowed to use MS >>>>>> product >>>>>> keys for anything. Th

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread ics
nything. They can't legally be used to track or identify people. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subjec

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise (Frank T. O'Connor)

2012-03-04 Thread G. Hutchinson
MS tracks you And it would be nice to see VAC beefed up a bit. Or cycled at much more frequent intervals. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread Drogen Viech
, >>>> and dynamic spoofed values given. Also, you aren't allowed to use MS >>>> product >>>> keys for anything. They can't legally be used to track or identify people. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: hlds-bo

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread AnAkIn .
>>> -Original Message- >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . >>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing lis

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread hlds
e- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise Maybe they could use the hardware information that the Steam

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread admin
I took the link down last night when I seen this post... Was just trying to help... Not cause people to go into depth of copy-right of how something is written.. But anyways VAC can block it just matter of them doing it... -- This communication is for use by the intended recipient and contains in

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-04 Thread AnAkIn .
Of AnAkIn . > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise > > Maybe they could use the hardware information that the Steam client already > send them every time you log in? > - Networ

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Frank T. O'Connor
r identify people. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:29 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise Maybe they cou

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Asher Baker
Yes, I was simplifying for brevity, it was hardly worded as a legal demand. However, no information about how people could acquire the source of the plugin was provided either, making that a null point. You can hardly provide a compiled binary and go "the source is out there on a server somewhere

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Charles Mabbott
Ashkerin, I could be wrong but I was under the impression it was legal as long as whomever has the compiled binary has relatively simple access to the source code. AKA the Binary only download and the source as a separate package is just fine. As long as it's available. A subtle distinction but tha

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Ross Bemrose
For reference, the AlliedModders thread is here: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=161320 On 3/3/2012 8:44 AM, admin wrote: I managed to edit SMAC to detect it but to "Block" this nasty hack VAC will have to update its codecs for it to be globally secure every server from it. I ha

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Asher Baker
You really shouldn't just link to the compiled binary, you can't legally distribute SourceMod plugins without the corresponding source code. Sent from my iPhone On 3 Mar 2012, at 13:45, admin wrote: > IF you cannot find on sourcemod I'll host the plugin for 48hours

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread admin
ot my hands on the source-code of this hook that is reeking havoc on Teamfortress 2 Community's here is what it's ability's are *Aimbot:* - Enable/Disable - Smooth aim - Triggerbot - Autoshooot - FOV Aiming - Ignore Steam Friends - Silent Aim (no view or movement change) - Aim at Teammates - Ignor

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Asher Baker
gt;> simply taking away things that they might be able to abuse. My dodgeball >>>>> servers for example doesn’t allow f2p to use, or hear anyone on voice >>>>> comm. >>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>> >&g

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread AnAkIn .
they might be able to abuse. My >>>>>> dodgeball >>>>>> servers for example doesn’t allow f2p to use, or hear anyone on voice >>>>>> comm. >>>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>>> &g

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Cameron Munroe
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Munroe Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise That is like saying I will not sell my product to "greens.&

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread AnAkIn .
t;>>>> comm. >>>>> Too many unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Spencer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread AnAkIn .
spewing mic spam all day. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Spencer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Camero

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread ics
ables just spewing mic spam all day. - Spencer. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Munroe Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise Tha

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Cameron Munroe
ic spam all day. - Spencer. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Munroe Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise That is like saying I w

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread AnAkIn .
>> >> >> >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Munroe >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Liu
mic spam all day. > > ** ** > > - Spencer. > > ** ** > > *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Munroe > *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server m

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald
any unbannables just spewing mic spam all day. - Spencer. From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Munroe Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Hackers on th

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
That is like saying I will not sell my product to "greens." It is not effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just want to beef up your security with sourcemod and some plugins. On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: One options is to just not allow f2p account

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot more vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so it only takes half as many votes against f2p to take action. On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, "Russell Smith" wrote: If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use SourceTV on autorecord. Then just reference the time of the ban with the time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the supposed cheater. On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: Now if it only would start a

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them... -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Russell Smith wrote: Yes. SMAC integrates with SourceBan. On 3/2/2012 3:21 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: > Can you intigrate this with sourceban.

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Rob Liu
Just the price of the game going free to play. Nothing we can do about it. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, DontWannaName! wrote: > True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due > to the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects > the degre

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
Yes. SMAC integrates with SourceBan. On 3/2/2012 3:21 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote: Can you intigrate this with sourceban. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
Can you intigrate this with sourceban. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. DontWannaName! wrote: True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due to the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects the degree

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread DontWannaName!
True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due to the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects the degrees in change, most aimbots jump from one player to another and there's not many ways to do that... Unless they change their aimbot to be

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
DBlocker can actually detect some hacks that VAC & SMAC can't detect. http://dblocker.didrole.com/ 2012/3/3 Russell Smith : > True.  Nothing is 100%, but it's better than only relying on VAC. > > > On 3/2/2012 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . wrote: >> >> SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many c

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
True. Nothing is 100%, but it's better than only relying on VAC. On 3/2/2012 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . wrote: SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain undetectable. ___

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain undetectable. 2012/3/2 Russell Smith : > Oh?  Good to know.  Thanks. > > > On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote: >> >> SMAC has its own version of the fast n

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Aerolite Gaming
Cheers, I will install SMAC however the Valve tf servers are still gonna face these problems. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread DontWannaName!
I thought something similar was already included in smac. Sent from my iPhone 4 On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Russell Smith wrote: > My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using > SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back. If you're not running that you > can try

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
Oh? Good to know. Thanks. On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote: SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you shouldn't need mine as well. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please vis

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Ross Bemrose
SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you shouldn't need mine as well. On 3/2/2012 5:54 PM, Russell Smith wrote: My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back. If you're not running that you can try i

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Adrian iFeaR
OMFG , STOP CREATING THIS FUCKING UNLESS MAILS. 2012/3/3 Russell Smith : > My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using > SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back.  If you're not running that you > can try it out.  Also check out Powerlord's plugin that will kick/ban

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
It wouldn't change the fact that VAC sucks and it can take them like 6 months to add them one of the most known public cheats. 2012/3/2 Alexander Z : > Yep. > IP bans don't do shit in most cases either because they have dynamic IPs. > IMO the VAC system should be adjusted to TF2 so that it dispens

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back. If you're not running that you can try it out. Also check out Powerlord's plugin that will kick/ban anyone with the fast name change scripts: http://forums.alliedmods.net/show

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Alexander Z
Yep. IP bans don't do shit in most cases either because they have dynamic IPs. IMO the VAC system should be adjusted to TF2 so that it dispenses bans instantly upon detecting cheating, not after a few months. On 2 March 2012 23:52, Aerolite Gaming wrote: > The amount of hackers is rising bigtime

Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
Nothing new. Valve doesn't care. 2012/3/2 Aerolite Gaming : > The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and > ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning > them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account, > i've not

[hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Aerolite Gaming
The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account, i've noticed this because they "Haven't set up their steam profile yet".