RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-06 Thread ray
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:04 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon you couldn't be more wrong. Of course they run under steam. And if you have your startup command-line written properly, the s

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dexion
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon It has been the case that Windows servers that a number of major server networks use (Rcon Gamer, Art of War, etc.) have not been given the -autoupdate feature by Valve that Linux servers haveso both of you are right or wrong

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
ah yes, sorry, I always forget about windows servers. (Mostly because I don't know why anybody would want to host on windows.) On 5/5/05, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It has been the case that Windows servers that a number of major server > networks use (Rcon Gamer, Art of War, etc.) have no

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Mikee
manner, and without overwriting other key files is a pain in the ass, and unreliable. - Original Message - From: "Clayton Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon you couldn't be more wron

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
you couldn't be more wrong. Of course they run under steam. And if you have your startup command-line written properly, the server will automatically update to the latest code just by going 'rcon quit' and nothing else. Mandatory updates don't even require any user intervention, providing people ar

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Oompa
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thank you Steve Tilson. On 5/5/05, Steve Tilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is your issue fool. Dissing Americans now? > What are you? some euro trash that has had to have their butts rescued > by the USA? > Do us a favor and discontinue

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Ned Haskin
What you never understood is that, dedicated servers don't run under steam, and there for require manual updates using the hldsupdatetool.exe, while the server is not running. Clayton Macleod wrote: never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in th

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Tilson
And by now your useless ranting has caused more net bandwidth to be wasted than the entire update will incur. Next time write youe message and delete before sending. You will feel better and will not waste anyone's time. ;-) Clayton Macleod wrote: ___ To

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Tilson
What is your issue fool. Dissing Americans now? What are you? some euro trash that has had to have their butts rescued by the USA? Do us a favor and discontinue use of any products and software made in the USA. That will take care of your useless posts on American information systems. Clayton Macle

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] What is in this "Optional Update" or is that what the previous e-mail that I received before this one is about? On 5/6/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There will be an optional Source Dedicated Server release in the next > coup

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:43 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon totally thanks for the heads-up roll on vac2 or was this part of it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dISCOSTAR*
Thank's for the news alfred! Let's be friends everyone :) -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. Try to be mature enough to not start a flame war a freaking mailing list. All he did was tell us that there will be a server update. Don't like it? Then unsubscribe. On 5/5/05

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread trickyb
totally thanks for the heads-up roll on vac2 or was this part of it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Oompa
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. Try to be mature enough to not start a flame war a freaking mailing list. All he did was tell us that there will be a server update. Don't like it? Then unsubscribe. On 5/5/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, you

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
Yeah, *I* am the one that needs a clue stick. Like I said, go READ what I actually said. Heh. Lemme guess, you're American? On 5/5/05, m0gely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /m0gely reaches for a clue stick. > > -- > - m0gely -- Clayton Macleod ___ To uns

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
No, you were merely assuming things about me because I had a different view than you. And if you had actually read what I said you would know what I actually have a 'problem' with. On 5/5/05, m0gely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clayton Macleod wrote: > I don't and don't care to know. I was merely

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: you don't know me, or where I work, thanks. I don't and don't care to know. I was merely stating that there are valid reasons why this information is helpful. Mind explaining how ensuring that pretty much every steam client in the world trying to update at exactly the same t

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: for server releases, sure /m0gely reaches for a clue stick. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.va

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
hahaha, my comment was aimed at their releases in general, genius. On 5/5/05, Darren Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dedicated SERVER release moron. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Darren Mason
Dedicated SERVER release moron. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon you don't know me, or wh

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
you don't know me, or where I work, thanks. Mind explaining how ensuring that pretty much every steam client in the world trying to update at exactly the same time does NOT put more strain on the network than if the client updates were unannounced and everybody were just randomly getting updated t

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in the future. Or of telling everyone when exactly it will be, either. That's because you'r not the intended recipient. There are people on this list who work at GSP's (and others)

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
for server releases, sure, but for client releases, why? Guarantee you that client releases would go much smoother for everyone if they *never* announced them. On 5/5/05, Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... > > Steve -- Clayton Macleod ___

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
the update itself as a whole is what is optional. Optional, as opposed to mandatory. Mandatory updates are forced, and are required for clients and servers to connect with each other. Optional updates, I presume, only contain changes that do not also require changes on the client. On 5/5/05, Z Tek

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Z Teknology G-Mail
Alfred Reynolds wrote: There will be an optional Source Dedicated Server release in the next couple of hours. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dexion
can you give use a link to what is updating? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon I send these emails

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
I know, just felt like ranting ;) Sorry. On-topic, don't people just use the auto-update command line switch? Although I suppose the current update in question would still require someone to kill the server, as opposed to required updates that get forced by the master servers. On 5/5/05, Alfred Re

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steven Hartland
Me too Steve / K - Original Message - From: "Steve Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
I know, I was talking about massive client releases that get announced way ahead of time. On 5/5/05, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As its a dedicated "optional" release I doubt it will put the network under > any strain. > >Steve / K -- Clayton Macleod

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Wright
Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon I send

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Hamish
What will this do? Hamish[DW] - Server Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.darkwatchclan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:43 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.co

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steven Hartland
As its a dedicated "optional" release I doubt it will put the network under any strain. Steve / K - Original Message - From: "Clayton Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in the future. Or of telling

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
isn't noticeable (due to the small number of servers relative to clients). - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:54 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedi

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in the future. Or of telling everyone when exactly it will be, either. Just causes unnecessary strain on the network. Just release, and say it's released. Rather than making everyone 'line up outside and