I'm glad you brought this up. I just had a lengthy chat with "UNI", an 11 year old (according to him anyway) cheater on the OGC IRC channel. He said PharLap was correct to blame me for the DOS attack, because I suggested it on the hlds list, even though I wasn't the one who did it.
I will say, however, that turn about is fair play. I suggested someone DOS the OGC site, so Phar Lap suggested that his users mail flood me (albeit with plausible deniability, which coincidentally UNI had never heard of). Then some hlds members DOS'd OGC (rofl), and then the OGC users mail bombed me. I can't say I don't have a sense of humor about it, as I actually find it kind of amusing. It did teach me a couple of things though, which surprised me: 1. I never actually thought admins would be morally capable of DOS'ing a host. 2. Cheaters apparently don't consider cheating morally wrong (which may be unsurprising to many) I would have assumed that people who cheat (games, life) know that it's wrong, but just do it anyway, because it fulfulls some need. Maybe I was mistaken. Something I found odd though, is that when I questioned some of them about why they cheat, I got the feeling they just would not come clean. One said, I got bored with CS. Another said its just fun. But when I asked them WHY it was fun, they ran around in circles tyring to dodge that question. So, maybe they DO know cheating is morally wrong after all, and they're attempting to hide it. Who knows.... All I know is that I'll enjoy my CS much more when the cheaters are all gone, and I'm playing once again against human skill, and not AI. P.S. While in the OGC IRC channel, a number of people kept getting booted with OGC 10.1b. So, it looks like Valve currently has the upper hand! Horah! StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak http://www.hardwarefreak.com rcon admin at: Beer for Breakfast servers <http://bfb.bogleg.org/> 209.41.98.2:27016 (CS multi-map) 209.41.98.2:27015 (DoD) 209.41.98.2:27017 (CS militia/dust2) Dallas, TX > Woah boy... calm down now... > Stan didn't attack their server. > He made a suggestion as to a possible method of disrupting > them. If you'd > actually go back and read the actual message and the thread > that followed, > you'd know he wasn't going to do it. Might not have been the > brightest post, > but he never said he was going to, nor did he tell the rest > of us to do it. > There are probably several hundred people on both of these > mailing lists, > even though maybe a few dozen post actively. So now you're > going to hold > Stan responsible for what other people do? > If I make the suggestion that someone should drown all the corporate > officers of the RIAA, and someone hear reads it and then does > it; does that > mean I'm culpable for murder? I think not. > Use your brain. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
