IIRC VAC is in two parts. One on your local machine and one on the server. Thats why I mentioned GameGuard.
If the cheats are crashing steam/css, it would appear to indicate there is an active process on your local machine when steam is booted(or even whilst steam is running) watching/checking what is running/being started and taking actions based on what it sees. I will say no more because I could be so wide of the mark it would be unfair and silly to go further(plus this is client side not server related). It might just be a lucky coincidence that cheats no longer load with the update :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham Robinson Sent: 05 August 2005 10:18 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source update But if VAC / Steam has been updated to not let the GDC cheaters into CSS doesn't that mean that they haven't played on a secure server while it can be detected and they won't be banned? I thought the whole point of delayed bans were to not let the cheaters know that their cheats don't work? Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't mind a cheater on my server if I know he will never play again in a weeks time (as long as I can ban him myself). On 8/5/05, McCormack, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If thats true then thats some real clever thinking by Valve :) wp _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ***************************************************************************** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods Group Limited or its subsidiaries. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The Registered Office of Littlewoods Group Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Group Limited is 5059352. ***************************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux