IIRC VAC is in two parts. One on your local machine and one on the server.
Thats why I mentioned GameGuard.

If the cheats are crashing steam/css, it would appear to indicate there is an 
active process on your local machine when steam is booted(or even whilst steam 
is running) watching/checking what is running/being started and taking actions 
based on what it sees.
I will say no more because I could be so wide of the mark it would be unfair 
and silly to go further(plus this is client side not server related).

It might just be a lucky coincidence that cheats no longer load with the update 
:)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham
Robinson
Sent: 05 August 2005 10:18
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source update


But if VAC / Steam has been updated to not let the GDC cheaters into
CSS doesn't that mean that they haven't played on a secure server
while it can be detected and they won't be banned? I thought the whole
point of delayed bans were to not let the cheaters know that their
cheats don't work?

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't mind a cheater on my server
if I know he will never play again in a weeks time (as long as I can
ban him myself).

On 8/5/05, McCormack, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If thats true then thats some real clever thinking by Valve :) wp

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