Re: [homenet] Working Group draft adoptions

2014-09-16 Thread normen.kowalewski
Hi, Regarding * draft-mglt-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation * draft-mglt-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options I think this is useful work and support its adoption. However, I'd like to see these drafts generalized so that mechanisms to provide authorization credentials towards the DNS

Re: [homenet] HNCP security?

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Richardson
Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: I'm pretty certain that the answer to this is going to be no. does zigbee even have link layer crypto, for example? and even if it does, new ones as they come on line are likely to have flaws for a long time (cf wifi). zigbeeIP mandates

Re: [homenet] HNCP security?

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Richardson
Markus Stenberg markus.stenb...@iki.fi wrote: markus What the draft does not cover is what is the assumption about markus security of protocols within it. If HNCP is run only over either markus physically or cryptographically secured link layer, there are no markus real extra

Re: [homenet] HNCP security?

2014-09-16 Thread Tim Chown
On 16 Sep 2014, at 14:52, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote: I think that we can assume that wired links are secure. The only time we care if wireless is secured is when we want to form an adjacency over the wireless link. I think it is acceptable to refuse to form an

Re: [homenet] HNCP security?

2014-09-16 Thread Mark Baugher (mbaugher)
On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: There’s obviously some interesting implications of this. One is that there are insecure wired links too! That's a good point. And I wonder about malware on end systems as well. Mark