Re: [homenet] Moving forward.

2015-07-28 Thread Robert Cragie
+1 - well said. If it weren't actually a serious issue, I would find the constant bickering in homenet re. routing protocol quite comical. I come from the other end of the spectrum (LLNs) and was put off a while ago with the general disdain for catering for anything the light switch guys (as we

Re: [homenet] Capabilities of small devices

2013-08-09 Thread Robert Cragie
Yes, but who's to say a light bulb won't be a home router? 6LoWPAN ND and RPL introduce the the concept of 6LRs and RPL Routers respectively, which are generally small devices (i.e. around the figures Frank mentions below) with a single wireless network interface. These devices rarely seem to

Re: [homenet] Next steps for draft-behringer-homenet-trust-bootstrap?

2013-03-15 Thread Robert Cragie
On 14/03/2013 9:42 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 03/14/2013 10:03 AM, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote: From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mtcc.com] [...] In today's world access control is gated at L2 via wpa or similar. Are you suggesting that we have a L3 equivalent? In addition? In

Re: [homenet] regarding recursive DHCPv6-PD (and architecture document)

2012-11-13 Thread Robert Cragie
On 12/11/2012 11:47 AM, Mark Townsley wrote: On Nov 10, 2012, at 2:21 AM, Robert Cragie wrote: On 09/11/2012 7:56 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: (and that's why RPL isn't on the table at homenet) RCCWhy not? Again, the sort of networks which would use RPL (LLNs) are referred to in the charter

Re: [homenet] regarding recursive DHCPv6-PD (and architecture document)

2012-11-09 Thread Robert Cragie
On 09/11/2012 7:56 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: (and that's why RPL isn't on the table at homenet) RCCWhy not? Again, the sort of networks which would use RPL (LLNs) are referred to in the charter./RCC ___ homenet mailing list

Re: [homenet] regarding recursive DHCPv6-PD (and architecture document)

2012-11-08 Thread Robert Cragie
Comment inline. Robert On 08/11/2012 12:25 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 08/11/2012 12:05, Ted Lemon wrote: On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: Fine, but when such an end customer buys a second router and plugs it in, will she get an error

Re: [homenet] draft-ietf-homenet-arch-04

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Cragie
be coordinated via the routing protocol (for example, using a new OSPF Opaque LSA). Curtis On 9/25/12 1:57 AM, Robert Cragie robert.cra...@gridmerge.com wrote: So let's tweak Curtis' sequence slightly: What every host does is: if it has no MAC: pick a random link local address else use

Re: [homenet] Security goals

2012-03-30 Thread Robert Cragie
a statement that device designers must assume that DDoS and other forms of malicious traffic are present on the homenet, as well as a statement that all traffic may be visible to unknown third parties. A sort of generic threat model for homenets. Regards Brian On 2012-03-29 00:20, Robert Cragie wrote

Re: [homenet] Security goals

2012-03-26 Thread Robert Cragie
(catching up on the homenet ML...) Comments inline, bracketed by RCC/RCC Robert On 14/03/2012 5:11 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Ashok Narayananash...@cisco.com wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 3/13 9:16 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: That's reality, and much as I love

Re: [homenet] Creating a security association via physical link + button

2011-11-26 Thread Robert Cragie
I've been following this thread with interest. Some points (from someone who has a particular 802.15.4-based mesh networking viewpoint): * There probably isn't any need to specify cryptographic security for an IGP on the basis that the packets are link-local and can therefore be